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Template partials look good, which is one of the key reasons frameworks like React are as good and popular as they are, because you can reuse small segments of code.




Key benefit for reusability and composability in React is IMHO that they don't use templates at all, but everything is a function.

Exactly. There are a few libraries to achieve a similar thing in Python:

* https://htpy.dev/

* https://pypi.org/project/fast_html/

* https://fastht.ml/ (different to above, I think)

* https://github.com/volfpeter/fasthx

Probably others. I strongly prefer this to templating, but I find it makes dyed in the wool Django people squirm.


I like this approach. I am especially drawn to the idea of making custom components this way but every time I have experimented with this I get burned by the context which has to be passed down through all functions.

A jinja/django template has an implicit context but for nested functions you really have to pass that context down through every function call.

It inevitably ends up just a big dict blob.

You get some typing support in an IDE but nothing really for function parameters.

Maybe I am doing wrong?


htpy supports passing data between multiple levels components with its context (very similar to React):

https://htpy.dev/usage/#passing-data-with-context


iommi is wroth mentioning here. It is different from an HTML generator, but one of the things it does is greatly reduce the amount of HTML you need write.

There are a lot of cool things about these, one that they are less typo prone and also they are often much faster.

The downside is I find them hard to read.

I think the template approach isn't quite right and yet neither is the functional approach.

At the end of the day these are a type of tree structure; I think we could conjure a new mechanism that gets the best of most/both worlds.


Yeah, I agree, I find them hard to read. JSX is the best thing I've used. Elsewhere in the thread someone mentioned Cotton which seems to strike a different balance.

To be honest my main problem with templates is they have to be one per file. In principle there's no difference between naming a new file and naming a function, but in practice it just sucks. It's a higher barrier so people are less likely to write smaller components, and refactoring support completely sucks. Even renaming a template is a massive pain whereas renaming a function with decent LSP support is easy.

JSX hits that perfect balance between readability while still being regular functions. Maybe something is possible with the new 3.13 template strings?


The most obvious value here is for HTMX, which requires a lot of partial templates.

React allows for encapsulation of state in a reusable component, its more than just templating.

React also requires you to know the long list of do's and dont's and is littered with minefields that most average developers are not even aware of.

Everyone just busts out "React" for every small thing, but few commit to actually learning this pretty complicated technology.

The last two recent Cloudflare outages were because of React.


Really?

They're a neat design. I started using them on my blog the other day as part of trying out Django 6: https://github.com/simonw/simonwillisonblog/blob/faec3532183...

There've been a variety of open source attempts at this idea. Is this official one now the best to use, or are the others still compelling?

https://django-cotton.com/ is component-based. I used it a bit, it's nice if you're used to the ways of front-end frameworks, I guess.


While using Cotton my thoughts were "ok, it's kinda cool... but do I really need it ? No. Is it worth the extra dependency ? No."

There is something very appeasing in just pulling Django and have all the basics covered. It's nice to have options when needed though.


Amazing that Django didn't have this until 2025

It's had includes and custom template tags for over a decade. Partials are a slightly nicer design for a subset of that pattern.

Wouldn’t Jinja2 macros count?

I stayed away from Jinja2 ... was under the impression it has lower performance. But I could have been wrong all these years.

>For nearly all cases, Django’s built-in template language is perfectly adequate. However, if the bottlenecks in your Django project seem to lie in the template system and you have exhausted other opportunities to remedy this, a third-party alternative may be the answer.

>Jinja2 can offer performance improvements, particularly when it comes to speed.

https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/6.0/topics/performance/#al...


But you could already reuse templates in Django by including them. What am I missing?

Check out the HTMX example in the blog, this helped me better understand how it could be used

https://adamj.eu/tech/2025/12/03/django-whats-new-6.0/#rende...


I'm an avid HTMX user but never did I ever think "I'm using so many includes, I wish I didn't have to use include so much."

What I would like is a way to cut down the sprawl of urls and views.


I do a check for `request.htmx` in my views and conditionally return a template partial as needed. This reduced my need for one-off view functions that were only returning partials for htmx. Works pretty well from my experience.

Partialdef inline is the real win. Lets you define parts of a page without needing to place them in another file. Reduces the mental overhead of imagining how the inclusion will look because it’s already there.

The use case is mainly driven by htmx where you will have lots of these partials and the view code renders them as individual responses.


It's just syntactic sugar, making life a bit easier for HTMX users (cf. "htmx was the main motivation for this feature").

I'm using Unpoly and I just render the whole page and let Unpoly swap the content according to the target selectors, so no need for this. Not much difference in perf if you dont generate gigantic pages with heavy header/footer.


indeed the vintage templating was a logical bottleneck

How is it different from include? Just less files from my perspective

The "inline partials" feature is neat, means you can use and define a partial at the same time.

The way you can render just a named partial from both the render() shortcut and the include tag is nice too:

https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/6.0/ref/templates/language...


Yeah, but I was doing the same thing 10 years ago with include mixed with extends and blocks. I can just include a file inside a template or render it directly.

you're kinda right, {% partial ... %} vs {% include ... %} is not a big difference, but my mind was vaguely thinking that "includes" have often been seen as large templates, whereas partial have been after the component era with the idea of making small blocks. (my 2 cents)

I asked the same question



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