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Can you please not post in the flamewar style here, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are?

It's always possible to make your substantive points thoughtfully, so please do that instead. You may not owe people who are wrong about use of buses by the homeless better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


I can stop posting in flamewar style but I feel:

> also offer "free hotels inside of the free buses".

Is the inciting flamewar style spark. There is nothing in the article about this specific part. Is it not bad faith argument to insist that all buses every where are used as hotels just because of a few bad experiences? The way the commenter discusses all homeless as either dangerous, addicted drugs, smelly, etc. is incredibly flamewar intending to push stigma on the topic.

If the people who are pushing unfound truths can’t be called out for it, then I guess the FUD spreaders win. The community doesn’t need me. Please scramble this username to something random. I’m out.


I hear you that there was a provocation in that bit. But it's a matter of degree. From my point of view, the GP comment may have been wrong and even bad (let's assume that's so), but by itself that doesn't break the site guidelines. People are allowed to be wrong in comments; it's up to the community to debate what's right vs. wrong and sort that out.

The way to respond to wrong comments is to refute them with better arguments and better information. This can be done without breaking the site guidelines. Of course there are downsides to this approach—it's a lot more time-consuming to patiently refute wrongness than to post it in the first place. But the downsides of breaking the site guidelines are much greater—that path basically leads to conflagration, and we'd like to avoid having this place burn to a crisp. Scorched earth is not interesting (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...).


For what it's worth, I think you and trollbridge are actually in agreement. Re-read their comment, to me it doesn't imply what you think it does.


I would be in favour of (for example) someone who is attempting to “reside” on a bus being referred to a social worker that then sees to it the person ends up referred to an appropriate shelter.


We are not. I don’t believe homeless people are “using the bus as a hotel” because I actually ride buses unlike the commenter who is afraid and probably has never volunteered or talked to someone less fortunate in their community in their life.

Their username is literally trollbridge! I mean come on.




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