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>Getting a REAL ID requires a trip to DMV

Getting a real id requires you to bring in paperwork that doesn't exist for me anymore. They want a utility bill? I do everything paperless. I am unable to get a real id because of their ridiculous "proof" requirements.

It's not about identifying people. I have a passport and can show that to them. I have a global entry card. Both qualify as a substitute for a real id. But I cannot use the global entry card as a form of proof of identity. No, please bring a landline telephone bill to us.

It's just another humiliation ritual.



They accept PDF printouts. The documentation burden is not a lot, but the timing can be inconvenient especially when you already have alternatives you can rely on.


I do expect that a lot of the proofs of state residency are things that people increasingly don't have any more--especially given strict proof requirements. And this is of course even truer of people who don't even really have a permanent address even though that's perfectly legal in the US.


> They want a utility bill? I do everything paperless. I

They accept printed pdfs over even a pdf on your phone.


Haha, funny. I was told specifcally no, your phone doesn't work. It needs to be a postmarked envelope with my address on it from a utility.


A landline lol are they living in the 90s?




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