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> once a state decides ubiquitous surveillance is necessary, it’ll find or fabricate a justification

This is defeatist, fatalist nonsense.



> Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something.

No, this is just being pragmatic and realizing that against a sufficiently powerful authoritarian push, legal arguments fall short. Until you address the root causes of something like Chat Control being tried again and again until it passes, any victory is just a brief respite.

You need political will to ensure freedom is respected and wanted by all. After decades of media and reactionary propaganda about crime scaremongering, it's hardly surprising that politicians are able to draft such laws with a straight face.


Alternative take: OP meant that we ought not to trust any justification for the expansion of surveillance like posted.


How?


It’s had to return. “Disguised.”

It was defeated once. It can be again. What might change that is lazy nihilism masquerading as wisdom.


I really don't see how GP's comment is lazy nihilism. There's plenty of that in this thread, but I felt GP made good points.


> don't see how GP's comment is lazy

It’s arguing why something that just happened is impossible. It’s justifying not doing anything because doing anything is pointless. Nihilism justifying laziness.


You do realize the headline matches what you just quoted?




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