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Github is owned by Microsoft, so this is a pretty small time indie operation, you need to give them a break.


I bet Microsoft is sad not because people can’t push, but because the training data for Copilot has slowed down.

PS: None of our 40+ engineers felt anything, our self hosted Forgejo is as snappy as ever.


until your hardware fails! Or your VPS provider goes down!

Or whatever else, software services going down is going to happen in some capacity, eventually. Real question is what is acceptable


When you self host you also learn how to backup. It’s not complicated actually, you should look into it.


I do know how to do that. I also know how to deploy bare metal servers, I have done so for years. Not really sure what you’re assuming here.

I however prefer to acknowledge the nature of the business, which is there will be an inevitable untimely failure in some way you did not prepare for despite being the most well read, well practiced and researched to the problems at hand.


Not replacing the CEO suggests they aren't focusing on it as much as they were.


Just your casual $3.8T company.

There were so many severe Github Actions outages (10+ ?) in the past year. Cause: Migration to the disaster zone also known as Azure, I assume. Most of them happened during (morning) CET working hours, as to not inconvenience the americans and/or make headlines.

Money doesn't buy competency. It's a long-term culture thing. You can never let go on maintaining competency in your organization. It rots if you do. I guess Microsoft did let go.


I thought GitHub Actions (in particular; not the rest of GitHub) was always Azure, because it was initially a fork of Azure Pipelines?

GitHub as a whole, including the previously non-Azure bits, does seem flakier than a few years ago though, for sure.


It's possible that, even though the Actions part was always on Azure, migrating the other parts to Azure broke some connectivity between the pieces....


You seem to be correct. Not that much visible from the outside, but yes it seems like they always ran on Azure, from the 2018 launch. (Apologies for the disinfo, although I qualified it with the "I assume".)


Pre-launch I seem to recall using an entirely different product with the same name, that supported CUE or HCL and had a better gui editor. I think post acquisition they scrapped it for the current (and IMO) worse reskin.


“guess Microsoft did let go” - are we thinking of the same Microsoft here?


I am thinking of the atrophying one. Not MikeRoweSoft.




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