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This is not a humanity issue, this is a legal one. The president ran on removing people from this country who entered the country illegally. He is executing what he ran on and what the people voted for.

I don't personally approve of all the tactics that are being used, however it is clear that some cities are not in favor of these Federal laws at all no mater which tactic is used. I also realize how quickly these conversations turn.



What if immigration courts are also starting to target people who came here legally? (Green card holders)

What if they begin to find “clerical errors” in their applications that suggest their immigration status is “fraudulent and illegal”?

And what if they begin to target naturalized citizens, but only ones who had the misfortune of being born in “terrorists countries” like China and Venezuela and Iran?

At what point would you say that they’ve gone too far?

You have to recognize that the humanity of these people is worth more than their “legal immigration status”. The spirit of this country must continue to be the Statue of Liberty, not devolved into an ICE detention center.


I don't deal in what-if hypotheticals... this is anxiety and I don't allow it. I also (try not to) don't allow manipulation.


FWIW the question about green card holders is not a what-if hypothetical.

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/01/nx-s1-5339698/green-card-hold...

I have a friend who’s been in the U.S. for 12 years and has been a green card holder for at least half that time. His siblings are citizens and minors. He and his parents are in the middle of being slow-motion deported, because the immigration courts are claiming his original application was fraudulent due to him being a national security threat. There is no new information or evidence that wasn’t in their original application. They just don’t like his country of origin and the high school his dad went to in the 70s. The whole family is trying to draw out the case so his siblings can finish high school before they’re deported.

These stories are everywhere. You can call them “anxiety” and try to ignore it, but this is not manipulation — it’s how this regime works. When they exhaust one layer of the vulnerable they have to go one rung higher up the ladder.


> This is not a humanity issue, this is a legal one.

Its only not a humanity issue if you have no humanity, but, even so, it is also an issue where the President has been violating more than executing the law,


>if you have no humanity

Manipulation is a common tactic to try and persuade someone of a belief, politicians are great at it.


> country who entered the country illegally

Why does the legality only matter when it applies to a minority we're demonizing?

Trump's current wife very famously entered the US illegally, not to mention the dozens of other crimes trump has publically committed recently.

People in these conversations very frequently bring up laws and legality but fail to recognize that laws only work when they apply to everyone equally.


>minority we're demonizing

Which minority is being demonized?


Which minorities are being arrested and deported and detained?

Non-citizens are a minority of people residing in this country (<15% of the population). This includes everything from people who immigrated here illegally, to asylum seekers, refugees, visa holders, and green card holders. And they’re being scapegoated for “crime”, unemployment, inflation, “domestic terrorism” (participating in protests).




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