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> People wanted this because news and social media have told them to want ...

> are subject to a massive amount of astroturfing ... The wealthy chose Trump, and so it is

People refuse to believe this can happen to them. Just as people do not believe they can be influenced by TikTok algos or advertising. They would know if it were happening to them; doesn't matter if they are left right east west up down or sideways, they are special snowflakes and it's those "others" that are the sheep that fall for it.

I did a stint in door-to-door sales (during a period of burn-out); as much as I didn't want to believe the shifty sales consultant that would come in and give sales training clinics, it's the people that absolutely know for sure they are not buying that were the ones I liked best--they won't be "tricked" or persuaded. No tricks needed, my personal ethics would not allow it even though there were "tips & suggestions" other sales people gave out; those that claim to be unsellable were almost always the sales I got the most commission from.



The exact same argument, that Trump voters were “influenced” by algos, can be made that anti-Trump voters were influenced by mainstream media or whatever.

So you either believe that people have agency and actually decide for themselves, or that they are puppets and democracy is a sham.


Maybe re-read what I wrote?

> So you either believe that people have agency and actually decide for themselves, or that they are puppets and democracy is a sham.

Do you always think in such binary terms? Life is nuanced, there very few absolute binaries, but as I originally pointed out, those that hold on to that "either or" absolute type of thinking were my easiest, most profitable sales.


Mainstream media is also for Trump - look at the contortions NYT et. al. are making to excuse Elon's Nazi salute.




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