The most important lesson learned here is not to ever deal with retail banking at the branch. Not only do they not care they aren’t given the authority or autonomy to help you.
By trying to do this at multiple branches across the country OP likely made the problem worse as those actions raise suspicions even more.
With that much money after the first day of inaction by support he should have CC’d every department from legal@ to the C-suite.
At the small regional bank I used to work for accounts were assigned a home branch, typically where the account was first opened, and that branch had enhanced responsibilities in terms of servicing and maintaining the relationship.
Chase is big enough that their KYC fallout queues probably have an entire team working them, and it wouldn't matter who else you CC on the email.
("Hey Joe, come quick! Just got an email from someone claiming they need their money we just froze...")
> Chase is big enough that their KYC fallout queues probably have an entire team working them, and it wouldn't matter who else you CC on the email.
The trick is to become so incredibly annoying that some CxO / VP is going to bump you ahead in the queue and assign a dedicated customer experience manager.
Personally, if a bank were to steal $180.000 of my money, a few weeks in I'd probably start considering sticking "Chase is a criminal organization" posters on the doors of their regional headquarters, or getting tickets to industry events just so I can ask them at the Q&A where my money is. They may think "computer says no" is an acceptable answer, but that doesn't mean I can't make their life a living hell too - so why not make my problem our problem?
>The trick is to become so incredibly annoying that some CxO / VP is going to bump you ahead in the queue and assign a dedicated customer experience manager.
Hard to be annoying when they can just completely ignore and redirect it to /dev/null
There's quite a lot you can do which isn't illegal, but is incredibly annoying. Such as renting a billboard on the CxOs daily commute route or near their golf club. They might be able to personally ignore me, but can they also ignore their golf buddies asking questions about it?
But this isn’t a KYC issue and clearly escalating worked.
Any time I’ve ever had issues that weren’t resolved within 24hrs by t1 support I’ve sent a succinct, mostly emotionless email to anyone I could find and it’s worked every time. Phone companies, banks, hell even the government.
Can confirm KYC really helps (in reverse) at small/regional banks. Shout-out to Midfirst Bank https://www.midfirst.com/about-us for walking the walk.
I deliberately flow a higher percentage of transactions through my, literally 10 min walk away, regional bank branch. I also occasionally (~once/month), literally walk into the lobby (shocking I know) to say "hi!" when withdrawing cash at the ATM for travel.
They know me by name & face. I'm not just a number to the tellers, the manager, and the vp, and likewise back to them.
Shockingly, I get fees waived for wires the occasional cashier's check, and am appraised of anything else going on with the website, upcoming services, and pending transactions (even at high relative holding percentages from one-time routes) flow through like butter.
I would've had a lawyer on retainer within the first week and had them in touch with the legal department until I got my check. We've had similar weird issues with our home address and the mortgage company that suddenly got cleared up when we put our lawyer in touch with their lawyer and there turned out to be a very simple form and process for changing the address of the property.
It's definitely exacerbated by being a big bank though. If I have a problem with my local bank, I can literally walk into the branch and probably just talk to a VP about it straight-away if needed.
This is a legal thing - a vice president or above is required to sign off on a large loan (like a house loan which isn't all that big to a bank). Thus banks give lots of people vice president titles, but those people don't have any authority except to give the large loans. They get an impressive title though.
Add in the co-op network of credit unions, where you can go to any branch of any of the member unions (50k+ branches last time I checked, but it's been awhile) and it's hard for me to understand why people bother with these big banks.
FWIW, at least near me, credit unions seem to be providing their customers access to shared branching without providing shared branches.
You can't just go to any branch, you've got to confirm they do shared branching. And then they may likely have withdrawal limits that are pretty low. I recently tried to pull $2,500 cash to buy a project car, and couldn't get it done in one day. If I had a big bank, I don't think it would be an issue; or if I had an account at a local bank or credit union with a convenient branch.
The only reason I'm not currently banking at a credit union is because my wife prefers banks. I can't understand why she does, but ultimately marital harmony is worth more to me than using a credit union. If it wasn't for that, I would never have left my credit union in a million years. They rock.
By trying to do this at multiple branches across the country OP likely made the problem worse as those actions raise suspicions even more.
With that much money after the first day of inaction by support he should have CC’d every department from legal@ to the C-suite.