Isn't Siri required for speech processing? I use voice control the most while in my car.

Do you really just want to use the buttons? I can understand that could be the case but I never considered this.

Forcing me into a voice assistant enabled at all times regardless though kills the whole thing. I end up preferring buttons and gui because the hands-free "assistance" is most often exercises in frustration and I conclude not worth it.

At this point many years of poor quality experience whenever I encounter voice processing is the matter. Happy to call me old, stupid, and bad at speech ... all are probably true. Still won't fix the frustrations I have for Siri, Tesla, Google-something, Bixby's button, and Alexa devices ... much less every customer service line now consistently apologizing that they didn't get that.

Carplay is leaps and bounds a better approach to gui/console in most cars. Much better than Subaru, Ford, Toyota or others can produce and there shouldn't be a voice assistant cost along with it.

You are not happy with the voice recognition quality (me neither). But I don’t see how Siri being an “assistant” changes anything. It’s just (poor) voice recognition (and only when triggered). What is the difference between an assistant and voice commands for you? And which of these differences cannot be turned off?

The key here is when you state "when triggered", it's already of poor quality when listening, why would I apply that low quality to an open mic situation? I don't want Siri available spending the few milliamps listening for something I'm trying to avoid.

I also don't want side button only, this triggers most of the times I drop my phone onto the wireless charger in the car. Edit: Clearly I should have bought iphone SE, at least home button avoids that?

It doesn't make sense that I should enable it just to avoid it and still get accidental triggers.

Carplay does not need any voice assistance to offer the basics like maps and audio. Lock the whole thing for all I care without Siri enabled, but to be useless if I choose to run my phone without Siri? Seems stupid to me. The trade off here is worse compared to set and forget with just Bluetooth connected for maps and audio at this point.

For a real trade off I'd consider; How about something easy like a shortcut which enables Siri when Carplay is triggered and disables Siri when Carplay disconnects?

1) person does not like Siri

2) person does not want to use Siri

3) therefore person wants to disable Siri

4) person also has a car and wants to use CarPlay

5) CarPlay will NOT work without enabling Siri

3 and 5 are in conflict with each other

You sound very condescending, fyi.

Just don’t use it. Why is it so important to disable it? It’s similar to saying “I don’t want to use pockets, hence I don’t want any cloth with pockets”.

It really feels like you’re fixating a bit on this.

Since your have omitted “6/ person returns iPhone and happily goes on with its life”, I assume it’s the least bad option for you still.

If you really want the level of detailed control you’re about, take a custom rom on android. It’s more work but it’s possible.

> You sound very condescending, fyi.

I don't get this, at least if it relates to my particular reply. Someone seemed to be having trouble understanding the reasoning of someone else and I tried to summarize it. Where's do you get condescending from this?

> Just don’t use it. Why is it so important to disable it?

They explained this in their post. Seems reasonable to me.

> Isn't Siri required for speech processing?

Probably, but I don't use it, only use my car buttons/dial for controlling CarPlay. The times I've tried the voice control it got maybe 50% of the instructions correct, which was more distracting than the muscle-learned buttons/dial control, so I keep using what works.

If I was trying to use voice control, it'd make sense. But I don't, so it doesn't.

In the data control of ChatGPT, you can now disable the use of your data for training:

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Still, I agree with the OP that all these ML/LLM should be on device. My mobile phone is very personal.

Are we absolutely positive that the cables for that switch is connected somewhere, anywhere*?

*: Except a little LED which glows when you throw the switch.

I’m not clear on the “forcing” part. What does Siri do you want it to stop doing? I use it to set a timer from time to time, that’s it. The rest of the time, we simply do not interact. It never triggers mistakenly for me.