Initially I approached this concept as "can good do evil?" but after some reflection I think we have a series of choices and what we do in the moment is the only thing that matters. Good is only good if it does good.

If you want to tie religion into the issue, ask yourself "Is it possible to do evil in the name of good?"

Good try being consistent in trying to get them to engage when they continuously avoided instead..

Yeah it's challenging to find self-reflective people these days.