for me even pixel 5 was ok (mini is even better but let's say apple is another story). Now we have only zenfone 10, that is a bit taller so again not that nice and s23 that is +- the size of p5 but still something felt off. Iphone 13 mini was super nice to hold, super light. I would have got one if not lightning. All my devices use usb-c, it would be a downgrade to use lightning