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Hopefully all American employees get the same treatment as European employees, rather than hiring a bunch of US-entrenched management and having them go "well this is an American plant, so we don't have to give you a minimum number of vacation days, and we only need to wage gauge you a tiny bit less than other companies in this space int he US for you to feel like we're treating you well".

It's so easy to open a plant in the US and then let them run it like a US company instead of a good company.

(And sure, Lego has has its fair share of employer scandal, but nothing on the level of US worker exploitation. So far)



It is striking how quickly the US turned into a backwater for all types of labor.


What's striking is that every time I talk about moving to Europe I have to cut my salary expectations in half. Talk about backwater expectations.


If you only look at salary, rather than "what you get to keep" based on total expenses, in turn based on factors like cost of living, cost of transport, cost of insurance, etc. etc., I have questions about your ability to budget. They money you get to keep, and what that buys you, is what matters, not the amount you start off with.


You won't be able to afford a dog walker and three F150 pickups, but you won't need to.


Then perhaps you're being paid too much compared to the other people in society


Or maybe 30k for a new grad software engineer in London is a joke.

What is your salary? Salary transparency empowers us all.


I have no salary currently


yeah that happened. You can get pretty much 55-60k on average.


Happens all the time. 35k avg according to Glassdoor. But furthermore, even if it were 55-60k, that’s about half of what you could expect in the US.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/london-entry-level-softwa...


Europeans will do anything to justify their abysmal salaries, won't they?

>Current: Labor activism.

lmao


US software dev salaries are, way higher than European, even when subtracting "mandatory" payments usually paid through taxes in Europe, like child care, healthcare, pensions, maternity leave, housing costs (which to a degree is depressed due to property taxes).


Do you include professional jobs in “all types of labor?” Software Engineer?


Yes.

Most software engineers get marginal pay and benefits - nothing like FANG or whatever it is now get.


Is there any way to find a company that has those kind of benefits in the US? Or are the market forces in the United States just too harsh to allow for such a company to exist?


If I was looking for a manufacturing job with great benefits and fair treatment from management I'd look for someplace with a labor union.




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