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Hi, I did this. The link that was posted doesn't include presenter notes by default, which is leading to some confusion. Check out https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1sowJrQQfgxnLCErb-CvU... instead.

IIRC the term the FBI used to describe these activities was "confidential", which is why they registered the planes to front companies they made up. Congress wanted to know more, so the FBI gave them a confidential briefing (https://apnews.com/article/1240a8a42edf4a86aff72a0246525a95):

    The FBI assured Congress in an unusual, confidential briefing that
    its plane surveillance program is a by-the-books operation short
    on high-definition cameras — with some planes equipped with
    binoculars — and said only five times in five years has it tracked
    cellphones from the sky.

    The FBI would not openly answer some questions about its planes,
    which routinely orbit major U.S. cities and rural areas. Although
    the FBI has described the program as unclassified and not secret,
    it declined to disclose during an unclassified portion of a
    Capitol Hill briefing any details about how many planes it flies
    or how much the program costs. In a 2009 budget document, the FBI
    said it had 115 planes in its fleet.
In case you missed it, pretty much the first place I posted about what I'd found was here at HN (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9508812).

Since then, I've done some other stuff in a similar vein.

I created the Advisory Circular network of twitter bots that post, in real-time, whenever they see aircraft circling (https://twitter.com/lemonodor/status/1294002338215034880). The code is all open source. The bots have helped me (and hopefully other people) discover all sorts of interesting things that aircraft are doing, often right over our heads: power line inspections, dropping sterile fruit flies, tests of new military technologies over the Mojave desert, retired attack helicopters fighting fires, and more.

ADS-B data includes information about navigation accuracy, and it turns out it's pretty easy to see when an aircraft is experiencing GPS/GNSS interference, and even map it. I created GPSJam (https://gpsjam.org) to make that data accessible to the public (instead of, say, paying tens of thousands of dollars to geospatial intelligence companies). On that map you can see things like conflict zones, U.S. military tests and training in the Southwest, and Russia's concern over increased risk of drone strikes deep into their territory.

The coolest thing about all this stuff is that it's not really very hard to do. It turns out as soon as you start paying attention to aircraft over the course of days, and weeks, you immediately find mysteries to solve.



One other less well-defined project I'll mention: Using whisper on aircraft radio traffic. I think of ATC radio as a completely unindexed, unsearchable, "dark web" of information, and Whisper can open it up and make it searchable. Whisper is the first speech recognition system I've seen that can handle not just the typically low quality audio, but also can take into account contextual information. E.g. some of the most useful information in a transmission on an ATC radio frequency is the call sign of the aircraft. But it's very hard for most speech recognizers to accurately transcribe: "7XY" is essentially just as likely as "1AC". Short, basically random utterances are hell on speech recognizers. But Whisper's killer feature IMO (but weirdly one that people rarely seem to use or even know about) is the powerful language model and its ability to be prompted.

Level 1 prompt engineering for Whisper is simply using a prompt like "Let's pretend we're air traffic controllers" or something to prime it to expect the specialized ATC lingo vs. any other thing people might be talking about. This prompt is specific to ATC, but is otherwise very general.

Level 2 becomes specific to the frequency you're transcribing: "Cessna, El Monte Tower, cleared for the option runway 01." Now Whisper knows that it's ATC, and that the name of the tower (which it will hear a lot) is El Monte, and that there's a runway numbered 01.

Level 3 is where you add additional time- and situation-dependent prompting to increase accuracy. If you look at ADS-B data, you can figure out which aircraft are/were in the area when the audio was recorded, that might be communicating on the radio. You can create prompts using those call signs, greatly increasing accuracy of transcription. (Some researchers have done work along these lines, pre-Whisper.)

An example of what Whisper makes possible: Here's a "supercut" of all the times either a pilot or ATC mentioned "laser", across multiple frequencies, across multiple days: https://twitter.com/lemonodor/status/1578516727549153280 Here's an example of what I'd like to be able to do (I created it manually, but I don't think it's too far out of reach), a video showing the aircraft map synchronized with ATC audio across frequencies, from a few days ago when a Cessna busted the presidential TFR near Philadelphia: https://twitter.com/lemonodor/status/1605293275333607424

Not Whisper-related, but just a fun proof-of-concept of a browser extension that lets you click on aircraft on the map and listen to them on the radio: https://twitter.com/lemonodor/status/1521551159206416384


https://openai.com/blog/whisper/ I guess this is the whisper you mean? Never heard of it before.


Is that project public? I'd love to hack on it.


It’s really just a series of experiments so far, no code to share.


I’ve got a raspberry pi with two SDR radios on my roof: one receiving ASD-B and the other receiving VHF airband. I’ve always wanted to try to figure out “connecting” these sources somehow, so for example, when I detect a transmission from N12345, I can highlight that aircraft in PiAware. What is the state of the art in this area? Sounds like this Whisper holds potential.



One other piece of additional context that I think is important: I assume the reason this old presentation is linked here today is because it was linked from this LA Times article about tracking Musk's jet: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-12-21/la-fi-priv....

Plane trackers have discovered secret government surveillance programs, sparking congressional inquiries. They have tracked dictators and criminals. They did help uncover the CIA's extraordinary rendition program. They did track a Saudi kill squad's movements, after the fact.

There is no evidence that anyone has ever been killed, injured, or threatened using plane tracking data.


How many times do you "randomly" get stopped at the airport now?


Why are there two areas of GPS jamming near San Antonio, Texas USA?

Ars Tech has "Why was there GPS jamming for 2 days in Dallas", From October, but your tool shows multiple consistent spots of Interference at San Antonio going back MONTHS and MONTHS https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/10/cause...

And I see it in a previous HN post, but no answers, just "Military". https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32245346

EDIT: The Ars Technica article is about GPS Interference of Dallas, to the north. It has in image showing a LARGE swath of "Medium" interference between San Antonio and Dallas, in October 2022. Your tool now shows ZERO Interference for October 2022.

EDIT: I guess that Randolph Airforce Base has two Military Operating Zones, is the explanation for why these two areas have been under GPS Interference for all of 2022. The October thing in Dallas is still bizarre, and maybe the US military had one these GPS jammers on the Mexico border as in the article?


Randolph Air Force Base. You’ll see that the interference is associated with Randolph MOAs (military operating areas) and stops on weekends :) Testing and/or training.


Not Plausible. Randolph Air Force base appears to be Northeast of San Antonio.

The -two bubbles- of Medium interference are on Highways to the -West- and -Southeast- of the city.

EDIT: Yea, that Weather Map does show big "MOA"s nearby. I guess it was silly to assume MOAS would be nearer Dallas, Texas, as the MOAS are really further from the capitol city.

Here's the two Interference bubbles near San Antonio https://gpsjam.org/?lat=29.17662&lon=-98.43553&z=8.4&date=20...


Two things:

1. gpsjam.org has useful permalinks. Copy and paste one here and I can see exactly what you’re talking about.

2. You’ve described exactly where some Randolph MOAs are. It makes me wonder if you looked at a map before claiming my explanation wasn’t plausible. See https://skyvector.com/?ll=29.61580898428276,-98.562377924644...


Yea, I just saw the Air Base off in a direction I did not recognize as "approaching Dallas", and assumed any used space would be in the same direction. I went back and edited/ deleted some comments.


If you want a mystery to solve, the recent jamming around Chengdu is unusual: https://gpsjam.org/?lat=30.54828&lon=104.34787&z=6.6&date=20...


Do you have an opinion on or evidence for/against this comment that the purpose is a continuous timelapse video of major portions of the city to backtrack vehicles after a crime has occurred?[1]

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34110888


Not OP, but Radiolab did an episode years ago on this topic called: Eye in the Sky. They have some strong evidence and interview some companies that do exactly what the commenter is discussing in other countries.

Original episode (2015): https://radiolab.org/episodes/eye-sky

Follow-up (2016): https://radiolab.org/episodes/update-eye-sky


Not OP, but that commemter's source seems to be "trust me bro".

On top of that, if the FBI was showing these tapes to cops for crimes as common as burglary you'd think somebody would have spilled the beans by now.


Randomly found Advisory Circles on twitter. Really cool stuff. You're really making OSINT much more accessible to common people.


Ok, we've changed to the URL you suggested (submitted URL was https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1sowJrQQfgxnLCErb-CvU...). Thanks!


I also have Meade LX200 EMC. Can you shortly tell how you managed to use Optic Track with it? Also how do you solve the focus issue of moving objects? I'd be happy to track and provide information from the the valley area.


This reminds me of McNutt's eye in the sky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJLr0KMsRAA




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