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"I'm just trying to get to the truth instead of blindly following the media narrative."

The simple truth is that Russia is currently engaged in a genocidal war with the intent of erasing Ukrainian people, which utilizes intentional terror on the civilian population. Everything else can be approximated based on that information.

This is one of the few clear cut conflicts between unspeakable evil and a distinct people who are being eradicated real time.

The ethics of the situation are exactly as clear cut as a Hollywood movie. Russia is the big bad. The Ukraine are the hero. And they are dying by the thousands.



> The simple truth is that Russia is currently engaged in a genocidal war with the intent of erasing Ukrainian people

If that were true then Melitopol would be the first erased Ukrainian city, but we see that's not true [1]. Perhaps it's because Azov battalion didn't have a chance to position their artillery on the backyards of civilian flat blocks in that city.

> This is one of the few clear cut conflicts between unspeakable evil and a distinct people who are being eradicated real time.

No it's not, there are far fewer civilian casualties in Ukraine than in Iraq during active months of 2003 alone [2]. Neither NATO nor UN nor the western world in general identifies civilian casualties in Iraq as victims of a genocide.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MCqAERksT8

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War#Ira...


UN has a specific definition of genocide: it's "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group."

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

The reported mass deportations of Ukrainian children are included in this definition.

The definition says nothing about Iraq war.

Intent? Documented:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220405204214/https://www.washi...

But a “substantial part of the populace” is “also guilty” and would require “reeducation” and “ideological repressions” lasting “at least a generation” and would “inevitably mean de-Ukrainization.”

The intent to destroy Ukrainian identity, and the actions taken so far, is what makes this look like a genocide. Not the relative number of victims.

Of course until "an official body" declares this a genocide - which is not 100% sure - we can always pretend it's just "a normal war".




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