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It certainly doesnt mean believing in nothing.


One can “believe in nothing” and still have “spiritual” experiences, for example the experience of observing a beautiful sunset… or perhaps the feeling we get when acknowledging that we are made from stars and will one day return to them.

You can argue that this isn’t true spirituality, but I think the way neurons fire during it is the same way a spiritual person’s neurons fire when having their own moments.


This is the meat puppet definition of humanity. We are not the meat puppet.

The experience happens outside of the meat puppet.

It is your belief in the reality of your body and your mind that prevents you from realizing the full potential of those “spiritual” experiences.

Those experiences will have little impact if the belief in them is lacking.

It is not that those experiences are more real, it is that they are no less real than what you call reality.


Also, being an atheist does not mean you lack any belief in the supernatural. For example, if I believed in ghosts but have no belief in god, I could still have spiritual experiences with my ancestors.


So you believe in little green men instead of little blue ones and that makes you an atheist?

If you see the experience as nothing more than a dream then that’s what it will become.

If you see it as something at least as real as this waking reality then the experience has impact.

Without belief in it, your experiences are meaningless. You will learn very little from them.

They are invitations that you have outwardly rejected in labeling yourself an atheist.

Atheists would take a research paper as truth over their own direct experience. They hold Science as most dear and most important and they label faith and beliefs and spiritual experiences as make believe or pretend fantasy.


An atheist has many definitions but one used very commonly is simply the lack of a belief in any gods. So I can believe in those little men (blue or green) and still be an atheist as long as those men are not divinely powerful gods.

I see how you are trying to define atheism: "Atheists would take a research paper as truth over their own direct experience. They hold Science as most dear and most important and they label faith and beliefs and spiritual experiences as make believe or pretend fantasy."

Again I remind you that atheism is a very broad term. As an atheist I follow the most common definition and have no belief in god as I have not seen any evidence they exist yet. If I have some sort of personal supernatural experience and god reveals themself to me, I see no reason why I wouldn't believe in them. Especially over some flimsy piece of paper.

I can also believe in something without evidence and still be an atheist. For example I believe in the supernatural to some extent because it brings me comfort and because there is so much that we still do not understand.


Does belief in nothing equal not believing in something?


No. The answer is in the question.

Reality is subjective, you will get what you believe.

In one sense you are right because ultimately reality can only be expressed in the negative. It is not in the class of perceivable objects.




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