This has to be satire. Anyone looking to be informed about China would be better served by reading the Axios Sinocism newsletter.

I don't believe that Axios is a better source.

Maybe let people check both out and decide for themselves.

Have you even read Sinocism? Your recommendations are very, very low quality.

Sinocism is the approximately the same level of quality as Jansen, Dumbrill, etc. That it caters to a particular crowd of liberal "China watchers", which you may be party to, does not make it higher quality.

Axios is also known for producing outright disinformation on China via zealots like Allen-Ebrahimian.

This is laughable. Do you post to r/sino?

What is that?

It is a radically nationalist pro-China forum to the point where they regularly push anti-US conspiracy theories and regular usage of words like "Amerikkka".

>It is a radically nationalist pro-China forum to the point where they regularly push anti-US conspiracy theories and regular usage of words like "Amerikkka".

The person you're replying to is an occasional poster to that subreddit, who surely knows this already

Lmao, HNers will eagerly doxx/dig up dirt on someone for a Gotcha moment but is offended by someone suggesting they validate propagandistic claims about a foreign country.

Honestly I have no recollection of ever visiting reddit Sino subreddit.

Which means you're an active lurker there and saw his name often?

>Which means you're an active lurker there and saw his name often?

I guess what you're trying to ask me is "How do you know that?"?

But rather than trusting any more of my claims, I suggest that you simply visit Reddit and look: You will see exactly the same unusual user name; with the same interests as here in various diverse topics; and the same writing style

Really, I think the initial question about the OP's behavior on Reddit was intrusive and probably out of line in HN etiquette, and the OP could ignore it

But I commented because the OP did engage with that question, and lied. And also because you then replied to OP in good faith, not realizing that you were wasting your time by trying to help someone who is obviously being disingenuous

I think it's fair to call out people who are spreading disinformation. I see the same patterns among some posters here and on reddit.

The two commenters above recommended youtube channels that A. are very low quality, B. repeat state media talking points verbatim, and C. are made by people who don't even speak Chinese, so they don't actually understand what is actually happening around them in their daily lives.

I’ll add these to my sources, thanks.

Mind that some of those mentioned receive money from the CCP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOIrsmjRFxU

Well here's what Cyrus Janssen has to say about accusations of him being paid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb-6fgN3MZA

TLDR: he didn't only not get paid, he refused payment. Plus the payment offer was not "we pay you to say this" but "we want to license your content for republication" and "we pay you a fee for the trouble of appearing on our show to give your independent opinions".

Yep, thanks.

Mind you, accused of being paid.

I recommend you to watch arguments from both sides and then decide for yourself whether the accusation is right or not.

Alright, mom! Sheesh!!

And Sandy Hook was a false flag op, because grifters would never lie on the internet.

Cyrus was recently exposed as paid by CGTN.

Dumbshill recently posted a clip of an old video of laowhy86, “exposing” him as a racist… which turned out to be taken extremely out of context and edited to be purposely misleading.

You should check his rebuttal to the "exposure" then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb-6fgN3MZA

Let people watch both and decide for themselves who to trust.

Hard to form an informative opinion when he released that AFTER he got exposed. It's possible that video is just him trying to save his skin. Just saying.

laowhy86, serpentza

Here's why both of them are not reliable sources: https://twitter.com/DanielDumbrill/status/145210963079286784...

In addition there was a marked change in tone from when they were in China. I subscribed and enjoyed that content and the two Exploring documentaries. Really good content.

When they left China it started to sound like highly personalized hate speech. I initially assumed that it was because they were upset at having their livelihoods up-ended and a sense of rejection. But... initially they had great plans for wide-ranging travel documentaries which did not seem to pan out ... so it seems like the next-best thing is Five Minutes Hate against our enemies in East Asia.

Sad to see them degenerate, but not living there now they are not much of a source of information.

This is exactly how I feel about laowhy86 and serpentza too. So much great content in the past but times have changed.