> I think we are using language differently. My sense is that Apple is using a legal fiction
That's still lying. its a legal way of avoiding paying tax. We are talking about morals here. Corporations are here to look after themselves. There are no real entities that can bring them to heel, barring public image. Apple are a ruthless company with an excellent and well coordinated legal team. I know because I've been locked out of my own server room because of them.
in the op way up the chain, two of the examples given aren't lying, in the definition that you've written.
> “I am satisfied that Google’s conduct assessed as a whole was misleading or deceptive of, or likely to mislead or deceive, ordinary members within the class identified by the ACCC [Australian Competition and Consumer Commission], acting reasonably,” Justice Thomas Thawley said in his judgment.
I'm talking about actively reporting abusers, and abusive content. Apple in 2019 reported 256 cases. 4chan reported 4x that number. 4chan of all places is better at reporting child abuse than apple.
I am not here to defend Facebook. I am here to make sure that all corporations have the same level of scrutiny. This silly "eww facebook stinks, ooooh Apple you're great, even though you've released airtags which are perfect stalking tools" has to stop. I get people respect Apple. but they are on the same spectrum as facebook, an abusive corporation.
That's still lying. its a legal way of avoiding paying tax. We are talking about morals here. Corporations are here to look after themselves. There are no real entities that can bring them to heel, barring public image. Apple are a ruthless company with an excellent and well coordinated legal team. I know because I've been locked out of my own server room because of them.
in the op way up the chain, two of the examples given aren't lying, in the definition that you've written.
https://oversightboard.com/news/3056753157930994-to-treat-us... Thats a clear call to action, but its not "oversight board being lied to"
> google lying to french regulators
"negotiated in bad faith" (read ripped off a bunch of people to avoid having to pay money to digitize people's work)
https://apnews.com/article/technology-europe-business-copyri...
> “I am satisfied that Google’s conduct assessed as a whole was misleading or deceptive of, or likely to mislead or deceive, ordinary members within the class identified by the ACCC [Australian Competition and Consumer Commission], acting reasonably,” Justice Thomas Thawley said in his judgment.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/australia-google-faces...
Just like facebook, telling porkies about privacy controls.
> I am not sure I understand what you mean here - I would imagine that all of FAANG (aside from netflix probably) provide services used by abusers.
https://www.missingkids.org/content/dam/missingkids/gethelp/...
I'm talking about actively reporting abusers, and abusive content. Apple in 2019 reported 256 cases. 4chan reported 4x that number. 4chan of all places is better at reporting child abuse than apple.
I am not here to defend Facebook. I am here to make sure that all corporations have the same level of scrutiny. This silly "eww facebook stinks, ooooh Apple you're great, even though you've released airtags which are perfect stalking tools" has to stop. I get people respect Apple. but they are on the same spectrum as facebook, an abusive corporation.