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The real solution is to use Tor-like network where you're using multiple intermediate proxy-servers located in different countries with different laws. And make that network extremely popular for lawful content. So when you're downloading Ubuntu, some of your traffic will transmit encrypted parts of copyrighted cinema. You have no idea what are you transmitting, you're just obeying protocol (which you should, because otherwise peers will throttle you) and downloading legal content.

At this point US have to make that network illegal, causing huge collateral damage. Note that even torrents are not illegal, so it would be quite a precedent.



>The real solution is to use Tor-like network where you're using multiple intermediate proxy-servers located in different countries with different laws

There are a number of Tor like anonymizing networks already, and they're all slow as hell and unable to handle bulk traffic. This idea has been raised many times and it's never worked out. Compromises have to be made, and if you want good anonymity/privacy then speed is usually the first thing to go.

>And make that network extremely popular for lawful content

There are already plenty of distribution paths for lawful content that can be fast because they don't have to hide in the shadows. Where is the value add? How will you get media companies to buy in? Almost no one is going to willingly buy in solely on the basis of "we need your traffic to help cover our illegal file distribution".

>So when you're downloading Ubuntu, some of your traffic will transmit encrypted parts of copyrighted cinema. You have no idea what are you transmitting, you're just obeying protocol (which you should, because otherwise peers will throttle you) and downloading legal content.

That's basically how I2P operates (you have to contribute disk and bandwidth to the network to store and serve files, and you don't have the key to decrypt unless you happen to request a resource that's already locally cached), and it's extremely slow. Not to mention the risk that you end up storing and distributing the really illegal stuff like child sexual abuse materials, not just pirated movies, which is far beyond most people's risk/comfort thresholds. You can't have a network like this "just" for pirate media without it being abused for darker purposes, and a lot of people are simply unwilling to support that.

>At this point US have to make that network illegal, causing huge collateral damage. Note that even torrents are not illegal, so it would be quite a precedent.

They don't have to make it illegal, just so unusable that the vast majority of people don't bother. Which it already is. Which is why we use torrents instead of already having a solution like what you describe. Not to mention that it doesn't have to be illegal for carriers to try and throttle/interfere with it under the guise of traffic shaping and fair use.




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