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HN is among the most technologically-literate demographics in the world. Using HN as a control group to say that it's been 'known and talked about' is a bit disingenuous when we're the proverbial 1% who are in the know. Meanwhile, the other 99% are left trusting Apple's advertising.


Just to understand this better is it that Apple is misleading or the public is uninformed? Trusting 3rd parties should default to “others have access including law enforcement” behavior.


> "Just to understand this better is it that Apple is misleading or the public is uninformed?"

That's a false dichotomy. I'd say both are true. Both are usually true.


Yet many HNers did not know about this before today. Even more evidence how misleading Apple has been on this.




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