Yes. I should preface this by saying I'm not a CS type but Igross about 34k a year, I've been at my job 13 and a half years, I'm in the same position I hired into because in my OpCo it's only 5 rungs until I'm at the corporate level.
I do not get a bonus, the 401k contribution is fairly meh, our pensions will no longer be contributed to later this year. The company stock purchase is merely we pay whatever the price is but don't pay a buy commission, however, we pay a sell commission and a fee on top of that for direct deposit and an even higher fee for a paper check if we sell.
The only realistic way to move up in my OpCo is to get at least a 4-year degree, Masters preferred though, and be willig to physically move across the country chasing jobs. My manager worked here in Indiana when I started, to become a manager she had to take a job in the bay area and move there for several years before a manager position eventually opened here and she had to compete for it. Similarly around the same times a guy had to come here from NY to become manager and wait for a position to open in NY to move back. In another OpCo a friend of mine is equivalent to my boss's boss now after starting a month before me, getting her bachelors, getting her masters, and moving to 3 different states over that period for a total of 5 moves.
When I see people on HN "yeah, I make a bazillion dollars, plus bonus, we've got free rides to work, free gym, free food, free this and that, great stock options and 401k match, but man I'm bored" I get quite irritated. I hate my job, I work every holiday, we hot bunk desks with another shift, regulations are constantly changing, internal policies are constantly changing, Office Space looks like heaven compared to my office, I actually make less some years after you consider insurance increases... but I don't have a degree and I've been here for 13.5 years so if I go to a company doing a comparable thing I have to take a few dollar an hour pay cut and lose nearly a month of annual vacation to start as a new hire. That's if the competitors will take me, I've had a few reject me for not having a degree, one of which has only been in business about half as long as I've been doing the job...
sigh
But hey it's ok, I only have to work here until I die since I'll never be able to adequately fund retirement accounts to retire!
I do not get a bonus, the 401k contribution is fairly meh, our pensions will no longer be contributed to later this year. The company stock purchase is merely we pay whatever the price is but don't pay a buy commission, however, we pay a sell commission and a fee on top of that for direct deposit and an even higher fee for a paper check if we sell.
The only realistic way to move up in my OpCo is to get at least a 4-year degree, Masters preferred though, and be willig to physically move across the country chasing jobs. My manager worked here in Indiana when I started, to become a manager she had to take a job in the bay area and move there for several years before a manager position eventually opened here and she had to compete for it. Similarly around the same times a guy had to come here from NY to become manager and wait for a position to open in NY to move back. In another OpCo a friend of mine is equivalent to my boss's boss now after starting a month before me, getting her bachelors, getting her masters, and moving to 3 different states over that period for a total of 5 moves.
When I see people on HN "yeah, I make a bazillion dollars, plus bonus, we've got free rides to work, free gym, free food, free this and that, great stock options and 401k match, but man I'm bored" I get quite irritated. I hate my job, I work every holiday, we hot bunk desks with another shift, regulations are constantly changing, internal policies are constantly changing, Office Space looks like heaven compared to my office, I actually make less some years after you consider insurance increases... but I don't have a degree and I've been here for 13.5 years so if I go to a company doing a comparable thing I have to take a few dollar an hour pay cut and lose nearly a month of annual vacation to start as a new hire. That's if the competitors will take me, I've had a few reject me for not having a degree, one of which has only been in business about half as long as I've been doing the job...
sigh
But hey it's ok, I only have to work here until I die since I'll never be able to adequately fund retirement accounts to retire!