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I know you say "apart from the obvious 32 GB ram", but I'm gonna say it anyway. On the off chance anyone from Apple reads this, I want to signal boost that as much as I can. It gets in the way daily, and as more places adopt docker (and Mac not having a native docker layer worth using), the RAM limit is stifling.

A keyboard nobody complains about again.

Better battery life.

A return to Magsafe.



Indeed, RAM. I have a two-year-old MBP that has 16 GB. I have an almost five-year-old ThinkPad that has had 32 GB since the day I got it. My workstation has 128 GB.

Actually, I should just sell the MBP. I've probably used it two or three times -- and for maybe two hours altogether -- in the last year or so.


Just out of curiosity, what do you do with all that RAM?


Rant to Intel. It’s an Intel limitation, not a specific choice Apple made. If you use LP DDR ram, which all power efficient laptops do (aka not just Apple), you can’t have more than 16gb ram.


Or they could go with a slightly higher powered chipset in the already insanely thin and lightweight form factor of last year's MBPs to leave space for a bigger battery.


Two questions:

1) What are you doing that requires 32 GB RAM? I assume it's for work -- what kind of products are you building?

2) Is a cloud desktop not an optional? I have a few friends who connect to powerful cloud machines from Chromebooks and Airs, and they seem to love it.


Some devs these days are using VMs extensively to develop on different projects and environments, and those devs need more RAM.

Cloud desktop works iff you have a good internet connection at the time


It is not, and was never Apple's choice to limit the MB Pro to 16 GB.

Educate yourself:

https://macdaddy.io/macbook-pro-limited-16gb-ram/


"Educate yourself" is not a constructive way to disagree with someone.

Also, it's absurd to suggest that Apple could do absolutely nothing about this Intel limitation if they wanted to.

I'm sure it would cost them more time/energy than they'd be willing to spend on the MB Pro, but that's been the problem for Pro users for a while, hasn't it? Apple doesn't care as much about it as its users do.


Yes it was. They could have chosen a different CPU, with less battery life. That should have been an option.




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