So you would favour blocking all sites and services that do any logging? I suggest you cancel your ISP membership if you really don't want to be logged anywhere.
Basically any sane site owner/operator logs access request to his or her site. Certain security policies like PCI also force parties in payment industry to log everything. Why then don't block PayPal? All credit card processors? If you think logging is the same as tracking.
At least then be consistent about it.
Though this was just a shameless plug by that blocklist operator. The url was the topic, he shows that he is is 'bad ass' and just lists it because it was removed at another party via DMCA (claimed by OP). Then says the site EXPLICITLY mentions it does tracking, while it doesn't show this at all.
Those blacklists have a very few unique parties that actually properly collect and maintain a list of urls. The rest just copies the others. Parties like pi-hole etc don't contribute anything, but integrate and copy years old blacklists of each other and then claim to be some internet saviour. If you really care about the connections you have outgoing, use proper egress filtering. (little snitch like apps e.g.) This way you will filter everything, and not just the list of urls that are known by those list maintainers.
If i was that party i'd consider legal actions. And dont read 'i say it doesnt do tracking', i say it doesnt mention it at all on the site, something the blacklist operator does claim. I prefer people have proper proof before claiming something and blacklisting a party.
As with any issue of security and privacy, there are tradeoffs.
> So you would favour blocking all sites and services that do any logging?
I make an effort to block as many as I can without breaking the page I'm trying to visit, yes. Usually this means having umatrix block about half the requests from a site.
> If you think logging is the same as tracking.
Logging by an analytics company, yes. And I do block those; Google is the most common, but this one counts.
> Parties like pi-hole etc don't contribute anything
Still my point about the reason for the operator to list the url stands. There is no evidence on that page that says its used in such way, and thats' what reason is mentioned for listing it. And i think that's bad. If he had some proof of network traffic etc, showing tracking via this url, you would not see a comment by me. But stating they explicitly mention something, and its not there... Again could still be used for tracking.. but it certainly doesn't say so.
Usability, thats another topic indeed :) usability, should NEVER compromise quality!
And over years of dealing with many of them, i cannot give them any credit for their quality. Certainly not when i realised, found out, there are only a handful of 'original' source lists. And the rest 95% just blindly copies and appends from others, and never bother to revalidate their own list.
Regardless, this seems to become an endless loop, so lets exit() and i wish all a nice weekend!
Basically any sane site owner/operator logs access request to his or her site. Certain security policies like PCI also force parties in payment industry to log everything. Why then don't block PayPal? All credit card processors? If you think logging is the same as tracking.
At least then be consistent about it.
Though this was just a shameless plug by that blocklist operator. The url was the topic, he shows that he is is 'bad ass' and just lists it because it was removed at another party via DMCA (claimed by OP). Then says the site EXPLICITLY mentions it does tracking, while it doesn't show this at all.
Those blacklists have a very few unique parties that actually properly collect and maintain a list of urls. The rest just copies the others. Parties like pi-hole etc don't contribute anything, but integrate and copy years old blacklists of each other and then claim to be some internet saviour. If you really care about the connections you have outgoing, use proper egress filtering. (little snitch like apps e.g.) This way you will filter everything, and not just the list of urls that are known by those list maintainers.
If i was that party i'd consider legal actions. And dont read 'i say it doesnt do tracking', i say it doesnt mention it at all on the site, something the blacklist operator does claim. I prefer people have proper proof before claiming something and blacklisting a party.