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It is ue_ who wants to defect, not me.


Indeed. I suspect ue_ also broadly opposes policies that tend to build high-trust societies as well.

By the way, why did Nordic socialism work so well?


The main policy that produces high-trust society is to build a monoethnic society comprised of Nordic people. Everyone opposes that besides a few people on the alt-right.

The Nordic countries have been moving away from Nordic socialism for 20 years because it doesn't actually work very well, even with a society comprised of Nordic people.


>Nordic socialism

This is not socialism in any sense of the word. They have a social democracy.


>The Nordic countries have been moving away from Nordic socialism for 20 years because it doesn't actually work very well, even with a society comprised of Nordic people.

Indeed. I suspect the main downfall of mono-ethnic social states is the development of hyper-vigilance against individual defection. For example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante

One wonders if the same effect eventually develops in all societies that are composed of outbred ethnic groups.


What kind of policies are you referring to? I don't quite understand.


It's a good question, and I didn't mean to be insulting about it - I apologize if is how you took it.

Here's a random paper I just googled up that at least introduces the problem: https://ecpr.eu/Filestore/PaperProposal/2bf67b79-61a2-42fd-b...

The short story: there's an association between declines in social trust and people of different ethnicities living in the same society. It's not clear which way the arrow of causality points, but there is some reason to think that a highly multi-ethnic society leads to decay of social trust (ie defection)


Not at all, I was merely curious as to what you meant. With regard to this problem, I had heard of it before, and I hope there is some kind of solution. I haven't read the paper yet, but I have a feeling it takes root in petty tribalism and legitimate differences in culture. Thanks.




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