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Very ironic, seeing that you asked this a few years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14815126

Please don't post dunks like this here. HN is for curious conversation and the guidelines ask us to be kind. We have no idea whether the thing they had in mind when they asked that question 8 years ago is relevant to what they think about the current topic. You could ask them rather than piling on like this.

I didn't ask how to do a bait and switch to offer a good free product and later ask for more money or else I'm going to make it worse. But I guess nuance is hard to understand.

Also it's always funny when someone tries to look up your past instead of giving convincing arguments.


Arguments for... somebody wanting to get paid for their work? What are you doing?

Normally you ask for payment upfront, not years after.

Who got asked to pay years after...? After what?

Best read: You are confusing different products. Somebody can do two things and get paid for only one of them.

Worst read: You are really trying to confuse them.


Nobody is asked for money years after they started using Tailwind. Nobody is being asked for money now, when they start using Tailwind.

So fork and offer your better free version. Holy fuck. What's with this persistent attitude that open source creators should slave away for free forever?

Either you support an economy where everyone gets a meager living wage just for existing and then once that's established you can complain about people trying to make money off open source, or you say "capitalism as it exists is great" and swallow the fact that people who you don't pay don't work for you. Which is it?


Please, just admit you're wrong. It's ok.

Once you give it for free, you must work for free forever!

/s


There is no bait and switch and it's ridiculous to suggest there is.

They have a free product and a paid product. They've used the documentation as an awareness channel for the paid product. The paid product influences and pays for the free product. A tail as old as time.

They're not asking you to buy the paid product and they're not saying they are going to make it worse. Did you even read thread? He literally says "I totally see the value in the feature and I would like to find a way to add it."

Not prioritizing it now does not make the product worse, it just doesn't make it better in this particular way today.

How is this hard to understand?


> A tail as old as time.

Eggcorn klaxon!


But nobody is making tailwind worse. After closing this PR it is exactly as good as it was before the PR was opened

Here's a convincing argument: Pay me for some of my labor or you stop getting labor at all.

Don't tell me you're giving me something for free in the first place then. It's simple.

This attitude really tires open source maintainers enormously. They are not allowed to earn money connected to the thing they are giving away for free?

I know there may have been some weird stuff going on lately (nginx, redis, etc.) but this is not one of them.

It's okay to be confused, but please do not continue this.


This breaks down because Tailwind is not monetized, is completely free, and hasn't indicated it won't be.

There is a corporate side with other features that has never been free. I pay for it because it's great.

I'm not sure if you're purposefully misstating it at this point or not. Several people have corrected you and you seem to double down incorrectly each time.


That's not a bait and switch my dude, lmao. Bait and switch only applies when the initial price is something other than $0 but still low.

Did you really go looking over years of their post history for this retort?

GP could have remembered simlevesque's past posts and then just double-checked.

The hypocrisy the GP noticed is strong enough to warrant a mention.


Bit of a stretch to remember a random post from 9 years ago though

I would love to learn how to draw. I have an iPad Pro with a pencil and procreate. Can anyone give me a few good pointers? I draw like a 5 year old.


I have the same setup and I like it, but traditional media is just much more pleasant.

In any case, practice. Keep drawing, and try drawing the same thing multiple times. Don't just start over, fix your mistakes. Step back and take time off to let the mistakes come out.

Above all, remember to have fun. Mistakes are an integral part of learning, and if you take yourself too seriously, you will never make any. Waste as much paper as you need, if it means that you will keep practicing.


Practice. Lots and lots of practice. There's no way around that.

Besides that, there are plenty of resources to learn particular topics/techniques out there. For drawing people with any degree of realism, you'll need at least drawing proportions at first and then anatomy later on.

While you can brute-force it from zero on your own like I did, I wouldn't recommend it. You'll learn faster if you study it like a proper discipline.


I am pretty good at drawing, and would highly recommend starting with traditional media rather than digital tools.

Drawing on paper allows for a wide range of physical setups, such as using a notebook on your lap or on a table, large sheets mounted on a wall, or a board on an easel. Each configuration engages different muscle groups. Large-format drawing relies primarily on shoulder movement, whereas smaller, more detailed work involves the wrist, forearm, and fingers. I'm convinced that deliberately training hand–eye coordination at multiple scales (finger–eye, wrist–eye, or shoulder–eye), is beneficial in learning to draw better.

It is also a good idea to experiment with a variety of media: pens, pencils, chalk, charcoal, and different surfaces such as paper, wood, or canvas. The differing tactile feedback and resistance will improve your motor control. You don't need to spend a fortune on this, but don't limit yourself to the cheapest color pencils and toilet paper.

That said, if your primary goal is accurate photo replication, it's probably easiest to start with Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain [1], along with some YouTube tutorials.

[1] https://www.drawright.com/


Portugal is also a weird market because cars in general are much pricier than in other EU countries.


How good is the proton ecosystem if I have multiple mail addresses and calendars?

Say I have hello@example.com and hello@example.net, can I use one unified inbox, and can I use both addresses to send and receive calendar invites?

Moreover, how easy is it to combine my calendars with my work calendar?

I heard it's also not possible to sync contacts with iOS, is that true?


It's great for multiple mail addresses. I get mail from multiple domains all in my ProtonMail inbox. Very easy to send from multiple addresses as well.

You can also turn on catch all addresses where you'll get all mail sent to anything @yourdomain.com. Very handy to create unique emails for sites I don't want to have my emails I actually use with contacts.

I can't really comment on multiple calendars. I haven't experimented much with that and get all my invites sent to one address.


Don't know about calendars. They are one of the better ones for multiple address - there's a limit on the number of a) domains) and b) email addresses you can reply from (but no limit on the number you receive from, with a catch-all).

I think their different plans allow different numbers.

The one what doesn't have any limits other than bandwidth is migadu. But they don't support second fact properly, last I looked.


"second factor" (can't edit the above any more)


fastmail would be lot better.

I migrated from paid proton to fastmail years ago and still happy.


I pay for both, use them for different things, but to be clear, fastmail does not have the encryption features that ProtonMail does. Not a direct replacement if you’re interested in the privacy aspects.


What encryption features? GPG works with any email provider.


Any specific improvements?


I ended up switching to Fastmail after it being recommended here ages back, and it’s been fantastic.

I’ve also used Google Workspace, O365 or whatever MS calls it this week, and Proton as well as self hosting mail in the past.


I'm honestly shocked by how long I've been using Fastmail without having a single complaint to talk about.

Usually after using a tool for an extended period of time, there's gonna be some annoyance that you just have to learn to deal with. After five or so years of me using Fastmail, I can't think of a single thing that actually bothers me.


I hope it supports thirds and not just 50/50 layouts.


I think that’ll require the crackpot team that made Calculator on iPad possible.


To be fair the new calculator app with its magic math writing is pretty dang cool.


Nebo has had essentially that for years, OneNote too.


Here is the blog post with further details: https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2023/12/06/introducing-jetbr...


I love the code completion from GitHub's Co-Pilot, but every time I use the chat feature to replace existing code, I feel like the UX is terrible.


There's also https://forwardemail.net which I really love


Did you configure DKIM?


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Disclaimer: Our office and customer language is German.

Monday is a medium-sized company of 50+ people located at the beautiful Fischmarkt in Hamburg. We are 13 years old and value good working conditions and fair treatment. The company is very transparent, and we have happy employees.

We have three big areas, 1st realizing projects for our mostly enterprise customers, mainly with the Content Management Systems CoreMedia and FirstSpirit (Both Java). Lately, there are also small projects with Strapi (TypeScript). On the Frontend, we try to use modern tools like React and TypeScript, although every so often it's not possible / needed. The 2nd area is our in-house product, Monday Webforms and the third area is classic consulting where we support our clients directly in their projects, though still with programming.

We are mostly seeking people with experience, but if you think you are a good, passionate developer, feel free to write to me personally at frontend@monday-consulting.com.

We have a great company culture, and you can decide yourself, how many days you would to come to the office (from 0 to 5, everything is possible). Furthermore, we offer fair and flexible time tracking, where you can reduce or increase your hours easily between 30 and 50 per week (40 is normal). All your extra time gets logged, and you can save it indefinitely for a sabbatical / days off or get monetary compensation for it. We offer complete flexibility, one of our workers has been working from Argentina in the last three months without problems.

If you have any questions, contact me (Oskar) at frontend@monday-consulting.com

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