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Talking hypotheticals, while the actual threat to the region are the usa and israel

Nice segue.

We've gone from, "The amazing Islamic Republic of Iran isn't even capable of building deliverable nuclear weapons and they have lots of peaceful reasons to do enrichment to 60%!" to "Yeah OK, they are capable and they are indeed enriching Uranium for their weapons program--hey, look over here! USA and Israel!!!"


It's not a segue, USA and israel have been literally destabilizing the region for many decades now. They survive on chaos

It's baffling to see the lengths people will go to justify israeli crimes.

It's baffling to see the lengths people will go to ignore crimes in general unless they are can be somewhat tied to Israel.

That's not the case at all. Some of us don't take our news from biased US sources.

> That's not the case at all.

Would you consider blowing up a bus with civilians a crime?


Would you consider occupying someone else's land and killing and massacring and raping and displacing its native population a crime?

It's amazing to see the justification done by some people to attack other sovereign countries. Did not america learn from the fake WMD fiasco with Iraq?

> fake WMD fiasco

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-stored-highly...

  The IAEA estimates that Iran had 440.9 kg of uranium enriched to up to
  60% before last year's Israeli-U.S. attacks - enough, if enriched further,
  for 10 nuclear weapons, according to an IAEA yardstick.
  
  The agency and Western powers believe the bulk of that is still intact.
  Washington wants Tehran to give it up.
I seem to have missed the IAEA report on Iraq's 400+ kilos of HEU.

Jm2c but I wonder how people can be surprised that Iran wanted to build a nuclear weapon, especially after the US under Trump's first presidency pulled out the nuclear deal struck under Obama and cornered Iran even more.

Like do people in US realize that countries around the world take notes about what happened to the Libyas and Iraqs and many others (like Colombia recently) and see that the US will attack other countries with impunity.


Who cares what the mullahs want?

The US feels threatened by Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile programs and has the military force to stop them, probably. Diplomatic avenues bore no fruit. Military force is now being used to--hopefully--end the threat definitively.

Yes, of course we are aware of what happened to Ghaddafi. It's very en vogue to point out the game theoretical incentives to develop nuclear weapons.

But seemingly people never bring up South Africa's disarmament. And nobody ever mentions that game theory also incentivizes the US prevent their adversaries from developing nuclear weapons where possible.

Giving up or stopping development of nukes may invite attack. Refusing to stop developing them may also invite attack.


>> *if enriched further*

Keyword there. They said they were not pursuing weapon enrichment.

Let's also not pretend that the US and israel care about international law, after all, there are arrest warrants by the ICC against israeli officials.


60% is very close to 93%; see my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47198239

> They said they were not pursuing weapon enrichment.

There is literally no other reason for Iran to enrich to 60% U235 than for weapons.



Note how they won't answer. They're affected by media FUD.

Many people want to though, and no one is forcing you to.

There is a difference however, of faith based on evidence vs. faith based in no evidence. Without getting into too much details here since it is not the avenue, Islamic faith is strictly based on evidence.

Not just to Europe, we've seen what they did to Western Asia "Middle East" over the past decades under the guise of "freedom".

The whole world, frankly. The mere concept of "freedom of speech" is a Trojan horse for far-right movements to gain ground amongst the peoples of the world.

We fucked up from the very moment we let agitators spread their poison around without any sort of punishment. Now the rot is widespread enough that they're making their moves.


You don't have to use wayland or btrfs on Linux though, right?


well, "linux is just the kernel" eyeroll.emoji so no, you don't, but it's easiest to use a distro, and among distros it's easiest not to use an obscure distro so you can use the package managers to install a variety of apps and tools, but the longterm mainstream distros seem to all be infected, even devuan which is barely mainstream. most "alternate" distros seem to be dedicated to even goofier ideas than the old school that i prefer.

i used fedora for the longest time but now they are not only forcing btrfs, but they won't let you partition either.


This came to mind when I saw that saying: https://sunnah.com/riyadussalihin:1844


When you look at it, you do notice how much of what is happening in that region was due to western (particularly British) intervention and colonialism, and continues to this day.


If you look at the history on Wikipedia there have been invasions and the like going back way before the Brits got in there. Eg.

>the clash between the kingdoms of Aksum and Himyar in 525 displayed a higher power struggle between Byzantium and Persia for control of the Red Sea trade. Territorial wars soon became common...

etc. And on likewise for over a thousand years.


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