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Why wouldn't people just use existing software markets?


For example?


App Stores, the web, etc. How else does software as a service get sold? It’s not a new thing. Probably a lot of these things will just end up as features in existing systems.


Existing appstores like the ones on iOS and Android mostly target casual use cases, mobile devices and on-device software. Not "buy once" experiences for work via software as a service. They also do not offer a unified experience. Two "text-to-speach" apps could have completely different user interfaces.

The web does not have good discovery and reputation management and also does not provide a unified interface. That is why market places like Booking.com, Amazon, Spotify etc have become so big.


> The fundamental loophole is that "the free market" is practically a religion in the United States

Blaming something for being practically a religion is about as empty a piece of reasoning as it's possible to make.

Why not actually suggest a solution rather than just throwing your hand up at the whole thing?


> Why not actually suggest a solution rather than just throwing your hand up at the whole thing?

A solution to which problem?

The solution to the problem of private equity running the medical system is government-run health care, like in most other nations, who spend less on health care per person than the US but whose populations are nonetheless healthier.

Or are you talking about the problem of the severe ideological divide? Or some other problem?


> The solution to the problem of private equity running the medical system is government-run health care

A super majority of the medical R&D is funded by the US system. The gov run systems pay for a minimum of it. Of the U.S. adopts a system like other gov run countries where does the medical R&D get financed?


Be a shame if someone looked up this on Google and found that it's not as outsized as some think

https://data.oecd.org/rd/gross-domestic-spending-on-r-d.htm


Incorrect. You linked to the overall R&D spending data, not medical R&D spending.

You can find the health R&D expenditure data here: https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/health_glance-2017-72-en...

It shows the U.S. spending 2.4x that of Europe on pharma expenditure as a % of GDP, and 3.2x that of Europe on government R&D health budgets as a % of GDP.

Edit: somewhat newer data is here https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/fc8b43f4-en/index.html?i...

It shows that the R&D pharma spending gap has actually increased even further to 3.5x.


60 Billion a year (if I've read you charts correctly) is a drop in the bucket of US annual medical spending (4 Trillion/year.)

You could pick the next most expensive country's plan, triple US R&D expenditures, and still spend way less. The GP's point about it not being outsized is correct.


You're attempting to introduce a tangential point to cloud the issue, a typical Red Herring fallacy. Bowyakka was 100% incorrect. It is indisputable that U.S. medical R&D spending makes European spending appear insignificant.


US americans are already spending the money that funds that R&D. One possible solution that occurs to me just now (and is therefore very half baked) is that there must be a way they could continue to spend that money to fund research, while also having a functioning medical safety net


> but whose populations are nonetheless healthier.

Population health is not caused by medicine.

> Or are you talking about the problem of the severe ideological divide?

Since you suggested that ideology is the “problem”, I would in fact be very interested to know if you have any ideas about how to solve it?


It’s an imaginary line.


Apple didn’t mainstream anything, indeed they withdrew the plan after the discourse was overwhelmingly opposed to the idea.


A smart person who systematically mis-categorizes the world is worse than an idiot acting at random.


Or not, and these aren’t really analogies and in fact are just gibberish.


It's a linux distro. It was already open source.


I bet they advertise it as a proof they have no spywares there.


Wasn't Deepin open source?


Harming the world more like, by making phones more fragile and less reliable.


How?


It will be very difficult to build a waterproof phone with a user replaceable battery


There were in past samsungs with easy replaceable batteries AND waterproof. The neat part is, with current legislation it could be done better bc it doesn't require hot swapability unlike oledr samsung models. It's not difficult, it's just not in their priorities


More materials will be used. People will change batteries that don’t need to be changed, and will buy and carry more batteries than they need. There will be a massive inventory of batteries in the supply chain, many of which will simply age out of their shelf life before ever being useful.

The chances of this being a net gain for the environment are basically zero, but the waste will make money for a bunch of people.


> The chances of this being a net gain for the environment are basically zero, but the waste will make money for a bunch of people.

You mean as opposed to now with locked down serialized batteries requiring special tools to replace? I'm sorry I just cannot understand your point at all.


> I'm sorry I just cannot understand your point at all.

Unnecessary batteries being sold = people profiting from waste.


As opposed to unnessary batteries unable to be reused? Or even the hardware of the devices themselves having a far higher chance of being thrown out in favor of the consumer 'just buying a new one,' as battery replacement costs get more and more prohibitively expensive.


Battery replacements aren’t prohibitively expensive, and iPhone at least don’t get ‘thrown out’ - they get recycled or reconditioned.


Why exactly would people change batteries that don't need to be changed? Phones do have battery health indicators, and buying one costs money. There's no logical reason to change one, until they have degraded significantly. The only difference is that now you can change it more easily yourself, rather than having someone else do it for money, which they will happily do regardless of battery health.

When combined with requirement for longer support with updates, this change in legislation will help creating a healthy second-hand market for more devices. Cheap, non-serviceable Android phones that get updates and are used only for a year or two are the real source of waste, we need a proper second-hand marker for those similar to expensive Apple devices.


> Why exactly would people change batteries that don't need to be changed? Phones do have battery health indicators, and buying one costs money.

You can't seriously be saying you don't understand why people buy things they don't need.


yes, because 0,000001% population swim with phones and need water proof...

seriously, splash resistant is more than enough for almost everyone...


'very difficult'

It's already been done countless times.


Always at a cost.


> but they need more time learning

They don’t need more time. They need a serious curriculum.


I’ve heard it argued by historians that there were likely to have been multiple prototypes of the antykythera mechanism, but each one was recycled to produce the next.


>each one was recycled to produce the next.

This could lend itself to the idea that one person made it, and if nothing whatsoever like it had ever come before you have to figure it took an awfully long time for one person to create something this complicated single-handedly.

Could be a number of years between iterations in a continuous improvement process that adds up to something like a life's work.

Maybe also could be passed down to a subsequent individual like a very specialized craft, and build technology across generations.


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