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Pretty much anything longer then a throwaway one liner I write in python.

Would be cool if python had a pipe operator though.

The back ticks in ruby is pretty ergonomic too. Wish python had a simpler way to run commands. Kind of tedious to look up subprocess run arguments and also break things up into arrays.


nushell (https://www.nushell.sh/) is essentially perfect for this use case! i use it rather than posix(y) shells for most projects where id normally reach for python.

Its amazing that working is so inhumane and unnatural that people break down like this. There is is nothing you can do except suck it up and create mental barriers to protect your self while participating this weird game of white collar work.

People have been writing about it for years. This is why we have child labor laws, work week standards, etc except in white collar and tech work we've been tricked into thinking we don't need those things

Anonymous whining reads like slander and lack of accountability. What's amazing about that?

> working is so inhumane and unnatural

What is work supposed to be? You either keep yourself alive, or if you can't, you cooperate with others to do so.

Why are you pretending like going to an office and speaking to coworkers to solve problems for customers is hard? What are you protecting yourself from except your own fragility.


> reads like slander

Slander is spoken, libel is written.

> What is work supposed to be?

THe union movement (and this is from the english point of view, I don't know much about it in the USA) people literally died for companies because the value of human life from the "lower classes" was so low. You only work week days because people literally fought and died for it.

We can, working together, create a better working world, where people are valued rather than exploited and used up for no real societal gain


> Why are you pretending like going to an office and speaking to coworkers to solve problems for customers is hard?

Nobody is saying that. That's super easy to do and most people love it.


There are a bunch of things you can do; this industry refuses to do any of them. "We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas."

How do you end up with 3 to 4 languages in one project?

Typescript on the frontend, Python on the backend, SQL for the database, bash for CI. This isn't even counting HTML/CSS or the YAML config.

I wouldn't call html, yaml or css languages.

Same for sql, do you really context switch between sql and other code that frequently?

Everyone should stop using bash, especially if you have a scripting language you can use already.


Sorry for being pedantic, but what does the "L" stand for in HTML, YAML, SQL? They may not be "programming languages" or, in the case of SQL, a "general purpose programming language", but they are indeed languages.

You don't have to apologize. It's the internet, pedantic is expected

Dude have you even written any hardcore SQL? plpgSQL is very much a turing-complete language

Recently I've been experimenting with using multiple languages in some projects where certain components have a far better ecosystem in one language but the majority of the project is easier to write in a different one.

For example, I often find Python has very mature and comprehensive packages for a specific need I have, but it is a poor language for the larger project (I also just hate writing Python). So I'll often put the component behind a http server and communicate that way. Or in other cases I've used Rust for working with WASAPI and win32 which has some good crates for it, but the ecosystem is a lot less mature elsewhere.

I used to prefer reinventing the wheel in the primary project language, but I wasted so much time doing that. The tradeoff is the project structure gets a lot more complicated, but it's also a lot faster to iterate.

Plus your usual html/css/js on the frontend and something else on the backend, plus SQL.


Go for the backend, something javascripty for the front end. You're already at two. Depending if you count HTML, CSS or SQL as "languages", you're up to a half dozen pretty quick.

i find it's pretty rare to have a project that only consists of one or two languages, over a certain complexity/feature threshold

3 or 4 can very easily accumulate. For example: HTML, CSS as must know, plus some JS/TS (actually that's 2 langs!) for sprinkles of interactivity, backend in any proper backend language. Oh wait, there is a fifth language, SQL, because we need to access the database. Ah and those few shell scripts we need? Someone's gotta write those too. They may not always be full programming languages, but languages they are, and one needs to know them.

HTML, CSS, Javascript?

Oh my sweet summer child...

Off-topic i guess. Are there like large scale success stories using this os?

Yes. I know at least one big cloud provider (actually the biggest) in Germany who uses Talos for their managed k8s.

At a glance though it's not obvious if theres something being sold. Its a hobby project? What is there to gain by gaming hn for this? Odd

Twitter/X Followers and relevancy.

Rust isn't that complex unless your pulling in magical macro libraries or dealing with things like pin and that stuff,which you really don't need to.

It's like saying python is complex becasue you have metaclasses, but you'll never need to reach for them.


2k a month for daycare or nursery school lol

I get the complaint about naming but hp is different then apple. They sell a variety of configurations and one isn't neccesarily better then any other.

Is a masters of really holding anyone back once you have a couple years of experience?

I just enjoy school, nothing is holding me back.

I think you can do something like impl defref but not sure that's a good idea hah. Maybe it's a different trait I'm thinking of

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