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Seattle is the type of economy that is heavily threatened by AI. Desk jobs that Claude basically already knows how to do, and just needs to be integrated into the existing systems to have impact.

Most people in Seattle "tech" are middle management with no discernible skills other than organizational deckchair arrangement. It is a place to optimize for work-life balance, and not take risk - this is why the region, despite its technology density, has such a disproportionately small startup scene.

AI IS a huge threat to a place like this and I am not optimistic about the ability for people to adapt.


Economic superpower perhaps - just take a look at their relative GDP over time.


China has 900M people making less than $400/month, and 600M people making less than $100/month. relative GDP is a joke, go to China to see what most of them are eating (hint: it's unsafe food filled with chemicals, or its mostly carbs) and where these people are living (hint: it's shoddy constructed condos or run down farm houses)


It’s unclear to me why what you’re describing is specific to China and not also what Americans euphemistically refer to as “fly over states.”


Not sure why you have something against the flyover states. I'm sure there's more shoddily constructed condos in Florida/California/New York per capita than there is in the Midwest. Same goes for cheap high calorie food.

Of course, the same can probably be said about the large population centers in China too. More people concentrated in one area tends to mean more poverty in that area and all the things that come with it.


I don’t have anything against them. I was born and raised in one. I just find it ironic that someone would fail to see this parallel.


The parallel is that there are rich and poor? It is unscrupulous to argue in imprecise, binary terms while ignoring the difference in scale. People in flyover states are not making only $400/mo or even occupying that same societal equivalent of China in America.


> China has 900M people making less than $400/month

Most of these folks are illiterate oldies that would pass away in a few years anyway.


I'm always unbelievably pissed off when I reserve a premium tier of car at SFO for a business trip, and Hertz tries to stick me with a Tesla, as if it is a premium car (horrible interior build quality), and with the assumption I have time to install apps and figure out how to use car charging infrastructure.


The Tesla is not the kind of car I'd like to just jump into for a two day trip, but the neither the car charger or key card entry requires an app, or is particularly weird. You touch the key card to the door column to open or lock, and you plug the charger in.

But the interior build and the touchpad interface mean it'll never be a top choice. It's just awful.


No CarPlay is a deal-breaker, as are the hours long queues to supercharge in California.


Maybe I want the novelty of trying out an electric car on a business trip. But far more likely I just want a bog ordinary car that I can drive from point A to point B.


It’s reasonable to have a few for that. Hertz has their premium stuff where you can rent all sorts of interesting cars.

I think they were just too early in trying to put a lot of them in the standard rotation.


Maybe. The problem with a mass market rental outfit is that you end up passing out vehicles on a take it or leave it basis.

But I agree with the basic idea that specialty vehicles need to be in a separate category.


My theory is it will work itself out in time. Once let’s say a quarter or maybe half the population is driving EVs, they’re not specialty vehicles anymore. There will be plenty of people willing to accept them so if you run into someone who absolutely doesn’t want one you’ll probably be able to compensate just fine. It will cease to be a specialty car.

It will be a little more like manual versus automatic used to be. Anyone can drive an automatic, but some people can only drive an automatic.

But if you don’t give EVs to people charged and there aren’t enough chargers around then even people who would otherwise take them (owners + the curious) will avoid them.


Sure. At some point EVs become something that someone renting a car would be expected to know how to deal with. Of course, that could take a while though. And it may be unevenly distributed. The uptake of automatics has been much slower outside of the US and, within the US, I've actually had a service associate need to have a tech drive out my car because they couldn't drive a stick.


Only at hub airports


Conversely, I get frustrated when I ask for a long range electric car and they either only have ICE cars or they have, like, a Bolt (an EV that I love, but long range it is not).


Some Hertz locations will also try to stick you with a Polestar 2 EV, which are as bad or worse. I've now switched to Enterprise for most rentals.


I think Teslas have amazing interior.

You’re not stuck with Tesla chargers. But they’re kind of neat because you only need to authenticate once, and not on every charge.

The rest of the criticism, I believe, applies to EVs in general.


At the same price point Teslas have a very spartan and cheap feeling interiors compared to almost any European manufacturer.

Sitting on a Mercedes CLA is much more comfortable than any Tesla around US$ 45k. It becomes even more disparaging when you go higher on price, a Tesla Model S at US$ 73k interior looks dreadful compared to any Volvo/Audi/Mercedes/BMW at the same price.

It's not even a nice looking minimalism, it's just spartan and cheap looking/feeling.


Super ultra hard disagree.

Base/rental trim -A and -B Benz interiors are terrible (in the US). Hard seats, plastic everywhere, shit tier center LCDs; list goes on. Civics are better.

I agree that the Model S interior falls short of most cars in its price range, though.


I'm comparing from living in Europe, have no idea how these cars are in the USA.

I ride in Teslas cabs quite often here in Stockholm and they are comfortable but not at all what I'd expect from a high-end interior, the Mercedes, Lexus, Volvo, and similar cabs here look much better inside than any of the Teslas I got so far (Model S/Model Y).


Ah; fair play then.

The A and B trims in the US are the lowest tiers that Mercedes-Benz offers and are spartan, but tacky.

Tesla’s high-end cars don’t have high-end cabins; we agree there.

In the recent past, a Model S with FSD was $143k for the Plaid trim. This was comparable in price to a Benz S550 or a BMW 750i, both of which have incredible, incredible interiors. Super plush, real leather seats; rare wood grain everywhere; customization to no end; coffin-quiet cabins; plush air suspension; etc.

That’s before taking the dealer experience into account. I don’t have experience with Benz dealers, but my understanding of them is that they are actually worth spending time in, and they take care of you when things go wrong (loaners of equivalent trim or just below; great coffee; clean centers; etc.)

Meanwhile, both Teslas offer cabins that I’d say are beneath what you’d get from a maxed-out Honda Accord. I have two Model 3s (old and new designs) and have rented the S a few times now, and I love Teslas, for what that’s worth.

Mobile service kicks ass, but if you need to bring the thing in for service, you’re probably looking at Uber credits. Shameful for the price.

Technology was the only thing the Tesla had the upper hand in.


Just like US companies are beholden to national security letters that can compel them to spy on non-US persons who may be users of their product?


If other countries ban US websites for specifically that reason, I applaud them.

Especially if they do it without being hypocritical.


China will not only ban American companies or services next, Xi will probably ban the US dollar.


The funny thing is. China can talk about removing the U.S. dollar and trade when Yen. But they need a stable currency to convert between and so conversion is still done with the U.S. dollar. The U.S. dollar won’t be removed from trade in our life time.


China doesn’t let the RMB float freely, so trade still happens in dollars. Also, the American government buys a lot of treasuries, so it’s easy to save a few billion quickly when you need to, which isn’t really supported by any other currency…saving money by lending it to the USG conversely prevents it from re-entering your own economy and stoking inflation (China isn’t the only country to use the USA like that, Japan buys more treasuries than China usually).


That won’t happen. China would be more angry if the USA all of a sudden didn’t let them participate in treasury auctions.


You know there's a rumor saying Trump/Xi would trade Taiwan with US treasury bonds.


Are you suggesting that only a "perfect" government gets to counter the Chinese government's attacks?


No, not like that.


Yes, it's exactly like that.


They are blocked because they don’t censor content. If they did agree to, they would be allowed - just like Microsoft, Bing, Apple, and a handful of other digital products are not blocked in China.

Edit: for those downvoting me, Google literally shut down their China operations because they were unwilling to comply with censorship requirements. Conversely, Google and other US companies seem completely willing to comply with national security letters that compel them to spy on non-US persons, which should make other countries where US companies operate equally uneasy.


"Doesn't censor content" is probably not describing the situation correctly; while some companies like Google have typically resisted such in the aughts, they regularly take requests from other countries of this sort, and it'd be very simple for them to reenter the China market by having a stance similar to what they have for other countries.

The issue here is probably caused by the requirement for an ICP recordal which requires removal of violating user-generated content within 15 minutes, which is probably a very tight deadline, probably coupled with a strong false positive rate which is why said companies are also hesitant to introduce automation.

It could also be argued that Tiktok is not completely value-aligned with US interests, although this has not been provably shown and whatever we have thus far is speculative.


Google tried to, but failed due to employee revolt:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonfly_(search_engine)

Microsoft Bing has been merrily operating in China for a very long time: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-03-07/microsoft...


and it is the top1 desktop search engine in China, way ahead of baidu.com.


> ICP recordal which requires removal of violating user-generated content

And the reason behind that? Copy from other comments, "So China can't spy on Americans and astroturf propaganda", swap China/America


> Copy from other comments, "So China can't spy on Americans and astroturf propaganda"

The Chinese versions of these services are walled off from the rest of the world (otherwise the ICP license probably ends up applying to the worldwide service), so this is not even a plausible explanation.

Further, asserting that the requirements imposed by the ICP recordal as being equivalent to following laws in other democracies is laughable; since most democracies make considerations towards good faith motives towards following a law even though there might be misses otherwise, not to mention the kind of content being censored.


this is why I don't like online political arguments, it always come down to faith and infidels


Try releasing a mobile news app in the US and see how it goes.

Even one that just scrapes Yahoo or something.


> They are blocked because they don’t censor content.

These platforms certainly do censor content. They have large teams globally that do just that.


I agree, but they have clearly not met the standard for what China needs. I mean Zuck literally was jogging around Beijing 10 years ago trying to build goodwill to get in, and it was Google that made the decision to exit the market.


> They have large teams globally that do just that.

You are spreading the misinformation. Google can't keep up with the censorship shit and gave up as stated in their official blog

https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-chin...

> a more open Internet outweighed our discomfort in agreeing to censor some results

> We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn

People seem to forget Google had a notorious record a terrible customer service. And China always demand more.


In China. They obviously run censorship globally in every country that demands it, it's just that China's demands were worse than everyone else's and they decided it's not worth the effort.


Google did everything right in terms of local execution to get all the required licensure and top talent, and then Sergey threw it away.


Both founders having grown up in communist block countries supposedly had something to do with their aversion. At least that’s what I heard (was working for MS china back then).


Larry grew up in Michigan... a communist country?

(As I heard it, the legend is mostly attributed to Sergey pushing for it, and every time I've heard Eric talk about it it felt there was some disdain there, so I would agree with you that Larry was probably convinced also, otherwise Sergey alone wouldn't have pulled it off.)


And the worst part of a Communism is "planned economy", e.g. the state decides which app/service is good or not.


Surely planned economy was the worst part and not repressions and millions dead under red boot.


the reason behind millions of death because the grain rationing system leaving little to none food for peasants in the 1960s, yeah it's still economical issue.

Bad things happen when the state controls everything.


The US banning a foreign-owned service from operating on its soil (when that foreign country bans many US-based services from operating on their soil) is not a "planned economy". Please don't use low-effort, bad-faith arguments.


There was the PLA hacking gmail accounts in Hong Kong also, which supposedly was why Google stopped playing nice in the first place.


It's a rogue state after all.


Americans can definitely invest into most Chinese tech companies- the exception is direct investments into non-tech, licensed companies, that require a VIE structure, which enables Americans to still invest.


This is what I meant by direct investment. Owning true controlling shares versus the cayman economic proxy


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