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I remember they successfully got Google out of a military contract in the first admin (and briefly vilified by the right for that). that's not going to work now. Workers have a lot less power and the CEO is buddies with Trump

As the article says, the workers didn't petition the CEO, they petitioned the head of Google AI who's already expressed solidarity with Anthropic. If they can convince Jeff Dean, I don't think Sundar necessarily gets a say; it's a lot easier to stick your head in the sand and ignore things than to fire one of your most widely respected engineers because he won't help the Pentagon build Terminator robots.

> If they can convince Jeff Dean, I don't think Sundar necessarily gets a say

It's Demis they need to convince, not Jeff Dean.


My one concern in this whole thing is that if these slightly less benevolent, but still have some morality, companies don't engage, we'll be left with companies like OAI and xAI engaging and you just know that's not going to make things better for anyone.

Which companies are these? Google and Facebook already bribed Trump under the cover of “settling” a frivolous case he personally brought forward. Tim Cook personally donated to his inauguration fund and gave him an expensive trinket. The Netflix CEO is now kissing up to him trying to get the WB acquisition approved. Even companies that are hurt by the tariffs won’t say anything bad about him. The only CEO that has spoken out against any of his policies is Chase’s CEO.

It’s not a great situation, no doubt, but after Kristi Noel’s luxury jet I’m willing to hope that their capacity for grift outweighs their competence.

> it's a lot easier to stick your head in the sand and ignore things than to fire one of your most widely respected engineers because he won't help the Pentagon build Terminator robots.

Wouldn't it be more like he would leave on his own and the company would keep moving along? Why would they fire him?


I mean, right. Why would they fire him? The Pentagon isn't demanding some concrete technical action that Jeff Dean has to personally perform or could personally obstruct, so it wouldn't make any sense. That's why I don't think Google executives can realistically stop him from announcing a similar policy if he wants to.

This is just the first step eventually we will be just like the Culture novels that Elon skimmed through the Wikipedia summaries of.

We are slightly delayed on the first Mars trips timelines that were supposed to have happened already but the overall timeline of being all over the universe at some point in the future is still perfectly on track.

This is an economic opportunity in the quintillions you would be stupid not to give Elon billions to be a part owner. Keep in mind like in all of his businesses no one else could ever do this, there is 0 competition only what his companies do matter and if you don't believe that GFY


They were rightfully been calling out the grift at Tesla. On the SpaceX front they've been his biggest cheerleader (even dismissing other stories like the sexual harrassment)

Where do people find this optimism? I reckon when the software jobs fall everything else will follow shortly too. That's just the first target because it's what we know and the manual stuff is a little harder for now. The "good news" is everyone might be in the same boat so the system will have to adapt,


There is however no reason to believe that the system will adapt in ways that are beneficial to you. Those in power don't tend to like giving it up and now they don't even need other humans to help them oppress those that would stand up to them.


Software, and most STEM based jobs, have a lot of determinism and verifiability + some way to reduce the cost of failure so brute force iteration can cover up the remaining. There is often "a correct answer". They've also yet to be truly disrupted until now which makes them particularly vulnerable than any other job.

Most jobs don't have the same level of verification and/or repeatability. Some factors include:

* Physical constraints: Even the jobs that have productive output if they are physical it will take a long time for AI and more importantly energy density to catch up. Robots have a while to go as well - in the end human hands and your metabolism/energy density will be worth more than your brain/intelligence.

* Cost of failure/can't repeat: For things like building the cost of failure is high (e.g. disposal, cleanup, more resources, etc) -> even 70% of a "building bench" benchmark would be completely inadequate without low cost to repeat. Many jobs are also already largely automated but scaled (e.g. mining, manufacturing, etc) - they've already gone through the wave.

* Human need for its own sake: Other jobs cater not just for productive output, but for some human need where it hasn't been made more efficient ever (e.g. care jobs). There are jobs that a human is more effective in the medium term because the receiver needs it from a human.

No -> this just affects white collar STEM based roles. Thinking we are in it together is just another form of "cope" sadly. There's a rational reason why others have optimism while we SWE's are now full of anxiety and dread.

For the people who it doesn't affect given their current place in many societies (nurses, builders, etc etc) there will be little sympathy.


Nothing will happen. He got off with nothing for directly saying from his own account "Funding secured" on Twitter in a much less nakedly corrupt environment


I listened to the call:

The capabilities will be "orders of magnitude" and "end of this year." The timeline is "there is no competition outside of China".

They are more amazing every quarter and so is Tesla's ability to rapidly produce them in the future.


> They are more amazing every quarter and so is Tesla's ability to rapidly produce them in the future

Actual lol. Genuinely brilliant encapsulation of every Tesla announcement in the past few years.


I really love this series, probably my favorite of his stuff along with Cage of Souls. I got a little bored with the first one but glad I kept on, the second and third were amazing.

I almost like everything he writes which is something because there's a ton of it and it's all over the place. Only ones I've DNFd are the Shards of Earth which is weird because I normally like space opera.


And where does Apples cloud run?


GCP


Trump thinks lowering the interest rates means market goes up before election. That's all there is to it everyone knows it's not about stability and jobs


Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but they are, in fact, extremely unpopular in EU


You believe Musk is unpopular with conservatives in the EU?


Overall he is very unpopular. There are a few far right parties that love him but they are outnumbered.


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