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I am curious if there is a coherent approach to modeling attention for long- or medium-term goal following. Currently, LLMs resemble a fish or a small child in their focus and behavior. Robots with such limitations would be strange to work with.


Interesting. If conscience is.. fundamental, than maybe even the future is deciding the past...


Promoses and flow libraries have steep learning curve


Ahh no, I've just submited to HN my new library https://github.com/salboaie/harvests (simpler replacement to promises and flow control libraries)


The Web itself is a distributed system but the personal home pages are not really a social network. We can imagine as possible a system where pages/small apps that you host with different cloud (hosting) providers obey the same rules to form together a distributed social network. This way,you have total control on your pages and apps and not a corporation. Is Facebook doomed today or tomorrow? Everything dies in the end but that simple and powerful implementation (idea) capable to replace Facebook can be years away...


Right, object oriented is not everything, sometimes ifs or switches are just fine.

I would suggest that decision tables, rule engines, workflow, DSLs, even finite automaton and other abstractions etc are better than having many many objects that are avoiding ifs :)


For a start you should read Hackers and painters: http://www.paulgraham.com/hp.html

At least for HN comunity that gives enough menaning, and I like it a lot. From other people, hacker means "cracker".


The battle is not only between Backbone and Angular, there is place for more innovation. I prefer Angular approach (As you say: "Less code to write means less code to test means less code to debug means less code to maintain. It also means a lesser page-weight at the end of the day." ), but we are putting our passion to create a framework for complex applications (something in line with Angular but with better features) While still beta, we already have models that are doing type checking, better/maintainable code, correctness against asynchronous effects caused partially by the declarative style we love and simplify the code so much,etc: https://github.com/salboaie/shape/

I believe that Angular is still at the level of creating nice sites but not for big applications. We are trying to compensate JS weaknesses with features for big enterprise applications (boring CRUDs, sloppy and not so motivated developers for working on bigger enterprise applications).

We need all possible help from other programmers with code, tests, real life prototypes, help from native English speakers to create good documentation, to get infected with our passion and to speak about the framework to other developers, etc.

I know that it is a hard battle but it is a pleasure to work for such ideas anyway.


Your project seems interesting. Until you create a sample application that shows off the good things about your framework, I cant comment much. Perhaps an article from you or someone else involved in the framework would be a good starting point? Perhaps a framework show-off?

If you want to do one even better, how about writing another article Angular vs Shape? :)


You have the classical todo MVC on github. In the first days next year I will send to people managing the official todo project but if you get the project, put on a web server, you can quickly run the todo project.


I had a look at your todo-app. I did not get 100% of what you are doing but your project looks ambitious ( which I think is good! )to say the least.

One of the problems with ambitious projects is that getting adoption is kind of hard because people's inertia is directly proportional to the amount of change. I suggest you come up with compelling reasons to switch to this framework ( maybe better IDE support since type's is such a big part of your framework? ). I guess a video with a famous IDE providing code-completion seamlessly with your framework would work very well. Or how about rewriting your framework in typescript? Then your's will be the first Typescript framework and hence adoption will be easier.


I predict that in the end, a declarative one will be the winner, eventually one that will compensate JavaScript weakness. Therefore, we are working to create a framework for complex applications (something in line with Angular but with better features) We have models that are doing type checking, better/maintainable code, correctness against asynchronous effects caused partially by the declarative style we love and simplify the code so much,etc: https://github.com/salboaie/shape/


Software and technology is not a top priority during crisis and other people don't read HN so much :) But on the other hand, a friend of mine recently said that he would invest to create homes for elderly people in Romania (in old communist resorts,in mineral water rich zones,having some infrastructure ready, etc) for West European (eg. German) old people. Cutting costs in West Europe could be a very lucrative business in Romania. Could work fine because of crisis.


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