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Is your prediction that most people actually like to use software?


Do they not? Many phone functions are already available through voice assistants, and have been for a very long time, and yet the vast majority of people still prefer to use them with the UI. Clicking on the weather icon is much easier than asking a chatbot "what's the weather like?"


My elderly mother has an essential tremor (though only in one hand now due to successful ultrasound treatment!) and she would still rather suffer through all her errors with a touch interface than use voice commands.


Some people seem to think that Deckard’s speech-controlled CSI software in Blade Runner is actually something to strive for, UX-wise. As if it makes any sense to use strictly nonvisual, non-two-dimensional affordances to work with visual data.


The sad part is that while everyone is chasing new interface modalities, the traditional 2D UI is slowly getting worse thanks to questionable design trends and a lack of interest.


No it’ll be some idea we have not developed or named yet.

The current ‘agent’ ecosystem is just hacks on top of hacks.


If you’re working in engineering, find an exit. AI is coming for you.


You can just ask AI


Hey man, take a step away from the keyboard. Instead imagine the every day person. Would they rather click, scroll, swipe and pull out credit cards across multiple websites - or just ask their digital assistant to do it?

The defaulting to negativity will really eat some communities up from the inside.


Chat windows and voice assistants are a terrible user experience for the average person. This doesn't change that.


I think there's a difference between a typical website chat window and how many people would use ChatGPT. The latter has tables, images and links which is enough to build up comparisons, order sheets and then ultimately have a format for confirming a purchase. I use it a lot for doing basic home construction comparisons (materials, volumes, etc) and could definitely see it getting to the point that it organised an order for me to submit, and eventually to where the submission and payment were within the chat.

A voice assistant doesn't give you that option to review, but maybe it'd work for ordering fast food. A small chat window could grow to work for simple purchases like takeaway food or small hardware, etc.


I am not so sure about that. The modern web has become complicated/unusable enough that I can see a lot of people prefering a chat interface over having to click through this unholy mess. I might be biased, as I have to deal with accessibility ussues on a daily basis. However, there is a whole demographic we're currently leaving behind. There are a lot of people around who simply don't try to use the Internet to get things done, because they are overwhelmed with how it works. My mother doesnt even want to click on a YouTube link sent to her via WhatsApp, because she would leave the well-known app and have to deal with the web... However, I can imagine her using an agentic interface to get things done, although not right now, maybe in 2 years.


I don’t understand how you can make this statement in the midst of chatGPT being the fastest growing consumer app in history.


That’s exactly what the folks at Amazon thought when they came up with Alexa. Have you ever bought anything online by asking Alexa to do it? Have you ever seen anyone else do it?


I think the "every-day person" simply isn't wealthy enough to (persistently) care about that level of delegated convenience versus the risks of getting the wrong product or ripped off.


The fact that you're being downvoted over this is proof that people here work and live in a bubble. People value convenience and are willing to pay for it, and if OpenAI is able to advance convenience through these actions, they'll make billions.


Does the average user does this? Granted, I’m not i. the USA, but does people really order that much on unusual websites?


You see negativity, I see disappointment that OpenAI isn’t trying to innovate, and instead hoping they can replay Google Search’s history for themselves


Wow this was actually blazing fast. I prompted "how can the 45th and 47th presidents of america share the same parents?"

On ChatGPT.com o3 thought for for 13 seconds, on OpenRouter GPT OSS 120B thought for 0.7 seconds - and they both had the correct answer.


I'm not sure that's a particularly good question for concluding something positive about the "thought for 0.7 seconds" - it's such a simple answer, ChatGPT 4o (with no thinking time) immediately answered correctly. The only surprising thing in your test is that o3 wasted 13 seconds thinking about it.


A current major outstanding problem with thinking models is how to get them to think an appropriate amount.


The providers disagree. You pay per token. Verbacious models are the most profitable. Have fun!


For API users, yes, but for the average person with a subscription or using the free tier it’s the inverse.


Nowadays it must be pretty large % of usage going through monthly subscriptions


Interesting choice of prompt. None of the local models I have in ollama (consumer mid range gpu) were able to get it right.


When I pay attention to o3 CoT, I notice it spends a few passes thinking about my system prompt. Hard to imagine this question is hard enough to spend 13 seconds on.


Not gonna lie but I got sorta goosebumps

I am not kidding but such progress from a technological point of view is just fascinating!


How many people are discussing this after one person did 1 prompt with 1 data point for each model and wrote a comment?

What is being measured here? For end-to-end time, one model is:

t_total = t_network + t_queue + t_batch_wait + t_inference + t_service_overhead


You can do this using OpenRouter; they accept USDC I think


I want a protocol, not a company that will act as a proxy.



that's neat


IMO the website is terrible. Instead of putting what actually is transmitted up and front it just tells you to use their wrapper libs as middleware with 0 reference to the wire protocol.

What HTTP headers are used? What's the body of the HTTP 402 response? The docs don't say any of that, they just say `npm install x402`.


Make a cool product video. It’s easier for people to grok the basic value prop for a product (and it forces you to think about it) vs needing to read product specs. It’s definitely worthwhile using a professional to get it created as it can be used for fundraising/sales etc


Often the wants dissipate over time. One craves sleeping in, having a coffee and not arguing with your spouse. Sure if you push people they might confess about abandoned dreams, but my experience is that most people over 45 are quite content. Maybe it’s a Swedish thing.


Can relate to both. There aren’t a lot of winters left where I’ll be able to ski. The future no longer feels infinite. I do not have all of the time in the world to do the things I enjoy. But, and my younger self would be very upset with me, I am very happily done with the hussle.

> But these days, there’s nothing lovelier than a Saturday morning with a bit of jazz or classical playing, pottering about the kitchen, and then being tucked up in bed before 10pm. Wild.

Play with the dogs. Smoke some weed, a nice meal and play cards with the wife. Don’t need much more.


It’s definitely a Swedish thing. I have some friends there and have visited your country, and the quality of life is incredible and people seem very happy, even if they don’t outwardly show it (people also seemed very private).

I lived in a nearby country for a couple of years and very quickly, the culture of Northern Europe pulled me in. People still want to improve themselves and their communities, they work hard at things they value, but don’t seem to be too bothered by small details or things outside of their control. It’s a very healthy culture - something I can’t say about the current state of my country (USA).


I think I’d choose that over the more American version of panicking when you’re 48 due to not hitting some culturally driven metric of success. An example of desire causing needless suffering.


I definitely have fewer wants, though they tend to be more expensive (guitars). I notice that a lot of things I used to really enjoy kind of fall flat for me now, notably metal concerts and video games. Still like both of them a lot, but they don't do as much for me.

The things I want tend to be hard to buy in the first place: autonomy/independence of time, more time with my parents, better skills as a musician, a more kind and patient heart. I think at some point I developed a taste for the long game, the type where there is no limit on improvement.


> and not arguing with your spouse

I dunno, man. "Gray divorce" is rising, and I don't think Sweden is an exception to that.


Maybe that's because these people don't want to argue with their spouse, and these couples are unable to achieve that.


How is this not better for engineers than having to maintain a LinkedIn page or a PDF-based resume?


My resume is just a chunk of HTML with `size: A4`, takes literally seconds to update it as it's just simple HTML and the "export" process is just ctrl+p in any browser and saving as PDF.


Maintaining a PDF-resume takes minutes.


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