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They removed the docs and support for it https://github.com/googleapis/python-genai/commit/af3b339a9d....

You can see the thoughts in AI Studio UI as per https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/thinking#debugging-and....


Depending how you count, parent comment is accurate. Hardware doesn't just appear. 4 years of planning and R&D for the first generation chip is probably right.


The first TPU (Seastar) was designed, tested, and deployed in 15 months: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1704.04760

They started becoming available internally in mid 2015.


I was wrong, ironically because Google's AI overview says it's 15 years if you search. The article it's quoting from appears to be counting the creation of TensorFlow as an "origin".


That's awesome. :) and even that article is off. They probably were thinking of DistBelief, the predecessor to TF.


Could some disgruntled employee offer proof of seeding and collect a whistleblower reward?


I wonder if this also applies to people that live urban environments that don't drive and have to navigate walking or using the subway.

From my anecdotal evidence, it does seem that the average elderly person in NYC is way more active and social than an elderly person in the suburbs. But of course, it could be that people that live in cities self-select.


Even among people who live in NYC, the elderly people who are outside going for walks and taking public transport are going to be healthier. If they're sicker or weaker, they would be more likely to take a cab or stay indoors and have things delivered.


If they’re sicker or weaker, they would be more likely to leave the city.

It is a difficult place for anyone, but especially for those with trouble climbing lots of stairs, handling icy surfaces, repeatedly shedding and putting on clothes, etc.

Or who are too old to sustain the illusion that their income is on an upward trajectory, and the current difficulties thus temporary.


They sort of self-select by the ability to earn enough to afford living in a city like NYC. There's enough low-income n-th generation inhabitants though to form a control group.


There’s plenty of subsidized senior housing in New York. My grandmother is in a complex like that right now, and all she does is collect SS.


Is there a correlation between income and incidence of alzheimers? I wasn't aware of one.


No correlation known to me, but likely still a bit of self-selection, at least for some large swaths, which can potentially bring in a confounding factor.


The more money you have, the longer you live?


Yes but I'm not talking about quantity of older people in total, I'm talking about what percentage of them get a disease.

With cancer, which is also more likely the older you get, studies show that the chances of dying from it are about 12% higher in the poorest counties than wealthier counties in the US. That is despite people in those counties having a shorter lifespan from all other things as well.

So my question in response to the parent's throwaway class warfare riff was: Given two people who survive to the same age, let's say 80, is one more likely to get Alzheimers than the other based on income? The article here would suggest otherwise, given that taxi drivers and ambulance drivers are among the least well compensated workers and yet strangely have 1/3rd the rate of Alzheimers.

[0] https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2020...


Sure, but in general people care about their future risks.

So the difference between when you look 30 vs 80 year olds makes it important to define what you mean when you say more likely to get it.


My point is, if you live to be 80, you won't be any less likely to get Alzheimers if you're rich. So there's not really a correlation between 90 year olds walking around NYC dementia-free and the fact that they're wealthy enough to live to 90.

I lived a couple years in a working class farm town in Spain where the old people were mostly not wealthy by but were really physically fit and mentally sharp. I think it was due to them having constant social interaction, every day walking around the plazas talking with their elderly friends. Some of these people were living alone in their mid-90s, and their diet mostly consisted of fried sardines, pork, olives, and cheap local wine. So living a good full life may be better protection against the ravages of dementia than living a wealthy one.


Wealthy people are less likely to get Dementia, which has multiple causes one of which is Alzheimers.

https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/news/wealthy-linked-red...


The fact that they have physical exercise (i.e. walking) probably contributes a lot..


What about navigating all those Walmarts and parking lots?


The shorter your exposure to weather extremes the more you can tolerate and the less you need to be prepared. Consider some extremes of human tolerance: The 300 club. 200F (sauna) to -100F (south pole winter), naked other than foot protection. IIRC the requirement is to walk around the world in that -100F condition. Or, for very limited exposure: cryotherapy. I'm finding conflicting numbers on just how cold it can go. WebMD says some chambers go as low as -300F, although any chamber that cold your head stays outside. (That level of cold is done with nitrogen, the chamber itself will be an anoxic environment.) It's normally done with protection for all the small bits that stick out, but otherwise minimal attire.


When the weather is cold, driving means you’re not outside nearly as long when you go shopping, and you can go less often, in better weather.


There is a lot of snark here. My non-cynical take is that they are aping the practices of top AI labs. OpenAI, Google DeepMind, Anthropic, and many other AI startup darlings have a culture of in-office work. People in non-hub offices are encouraged to travel a lot.

Yes, it will take a lot more than RTO to create an innovative culture like paying more for one, but one can reasonably hypothesize that working physically together is a necessary but not sufficient condition.


At the very top, the US excels at math. We consistently place at the top or near the top in the IMO for instance (https://maa.org/news/usa-first-at-imo/). Yes the team is largely children of immigrants, but they are Americans, too.


> At the very top, the US excels at math.

Did you assess every other school system "at its very top" and compare? This seems to be very clearly a double standard. Consider that IMO numbers are going to be biased due to the US's larger population compared to other highly developed countries.


It's ironic that your comment includes immigrants to show that America is great, while other comments exclude immigrants to show that America is not so bad.


Aren't those prodigies who get identified and given special education that is not available to most? They may not be all the useful for judging the quality of math education in general in the US.


Yes, but the ability to identify prodigies and give them the resources to realize their full potential is part of an education system, too. I don't know the full details of the IMO participants, but the team is geographically diverse.

Of course, another aspect of the education system are the resources given to the average student, and I don't think there is much debate that the US could do better here.


No difference between them and any other American. Congrats to the team.


From 2022 stats: Roughly 4 million students in each grade in the US.

8th,9th,10th,11th & 12th graders = 20 million.

So 20 million students are eligible for AMC10/AMC12

Of them, only 300K took the AMC10/AMC12

Of them, only 10K were invited to take the AIME

Of them, only 500 were invited to take the USAMO

Of them, only 50 went to the MOPs

Of them, only 6 went to the IMO & won.

The article is about 4th & 8th graders, of which we have 8 million.

Now, suppose those 4th graders get to 8th grade, then the 8th graders would be in 12. That makes both cohorts eligible for AMC10/12. At that point, they become 8 million out of the 20 million. So 120K of them take the AMCs, 4K take the AIME, 200 get into USAMO, 20 get invited into the MOPs, and best case 2 kids make it into the IMO.

So from this grand experiment, 2 kids will emerge the victor, and we are supposed to back-extrapolate that 8 million kids do ok. Aaalright then.../s


It used to be possible to break into iPhones by sending just a text message without the target clicking on anything.

The only thing that kept this under control was there was an agreement to not target US-based numbers and the exploit was expensive.

Reference: The Battle for the World’s Most Powerful Cyberweapon https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/magazine/nso-group-israel... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)


Not quite, from the Wikipedia:

> Pegasus' iOS exploitation was identified in August 2016. Emirati human rights defender Ahmed Mansoor received a text message promising "secrets" about torture happening in prisons in the United Arab Emirates by following a link. Mansoor sent the link to Citizen Lab of the University of Toronto, which investigated, with the collaboration of Lookout, finding that if Mansoor had followed the link it would have jailbroken his phone and implanted the spyware into it, in a form of social engineering.

So the link was sent via text message, but you had to click on it. Receiving the text message did nothing in and of itself.


Initial versions were one-click. The attack became more sophisticated and became zero-click.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)#Development_... for timeline.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)#Saudi_Arabia for the iMessage version.


https://developers.googleblog.com/en/tensorflow-lite-is-now-... tries.

https://github.com/google/aqt is more explicit and preferable IMO.

Neither are as user-friendly as what Torchao has presented here.


As an American with Southeast Asian immigrant parents, they will live in a way that most Americans would find intolerable. Whole families in a 1 bedroom, very long commutes, taking buses, and living apart from their children (CPS, I know).

To be clear, I did not grow up like this, but I know many that did.


Some, yeah. I grew up with the 1990’s OGs. Outside my project and literally across the street was a pocket of county within city limits and all the Hmong and Laos families lived like that there. I courted a girl that lived with like 15 people in a 2 bed 1 bath house there. But the families in my project had to follow government rules with respect to the number of people living in one unit.


This is just (neurotypical?) human programming to be considerate of others. The driver feels this, too. I'd assume that the CEO of Uber Dara can manage his emotions and boundaries, well. But he mentions

> Some experiences made him feel slighted, such as when riders discussed personal problems and company secrets on speakerphone, as if there was no one else present.

https://archive.is/2023.04.17-151927/https://www.wsj.com/amp... (WSJ article)


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