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That's BSV, maybe. Bitcoin core deviated from the original white paper long long ago


Are you arguing that the original Bitcoin whitepaper is invalid as a source of whether Bitcoin is "desired" as a payment method?

Clearly, at least one person (the author of the whitepaper!) "desired" Bitcoin as a payment method. They desired it so much, that they went off an invented it!

If that doesn't count as a source indicating what someone "desires" then nothing does.


That's largely dependent on the ebb and flow of hydraulic power


Anyone notice a theme here?

Every failure of google has something to do with the fact that they're automating so far that it ends up being downright harmful. Youtube, Google Pay, Google Cloud, etc

I've even heard of similar stories about using Google Cloud, where the system can flag your account and basically your entire business is deleted due to an automated process!

https://medium.com/@serverpunch/why-you-should-not-use-googl...

Though they seem to have reigned that in a bit here: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/07/18/google_cloud_platfo...

I get the feeling in the short term they'll double-down on automation/AI until it's good enough nobody notices.

I wonder if they have a pulse on how their businesses are suffering because of that perception, though. When your company has a stigma of it being nearly impossible to reach a human being to get things done - is it really a surprise that my colleagues and I won't recommend google cloud as a service provider?


Jodie in HR is going to run Quassel?


With the list of channels on the left, and the chat on the right in the big window? It's pretty different to Slack.


What do you do when people call you?


Oh come on can we drop the cat pictures trope?

I use RocketChat for my consulting business for a few reasons that are largely unavailable on IRC without bots:

1) Rich text and syntax highlighting - Small properly fenced off code blocks are a wonder. Contrast that to IRC where it would never look quite right, relies on the other person's client to have monospaced fonts, and usually gets you yelled at for flooding

2) URL expanding - Viewing titles and a snippet of the content is useful. Requires bots on IRC.

3) File sharing in a trivial non-p2p. Nobody liked DCC, and I shudder thinking of going back to opening port ranges for that.

4) Reliability of having a central history which alleviates needing a bouncer, and reduces how important a stable connection actually is.

The only other thing you could come back with is to use yet other external platforms to alleviate those issues like:

For 1) An external public/private pastebin solution

For 2) A bot as I already said

For 3) An external filsharing service: Dropbox, Nextcloud, etc

For 4) External bnc: ZNC, bip, weechat, irssi etc

RocketChat, Mattermost, Slack, et al incorporate all of those things and more and are inherently useful - Plus, if you're the administrator you don't have to enable gifs or cat pictures, yes that shit is dumb.


IRC bots are trivial to implement and run so I don't consider many of these, which are commonly provided by IRC bots, as legitimate arguments against IRC. I don't consider "but you need a bot" to be a legitimate gripe.

Rich text is generally worthless except for code highlighting, but pasting large amounts of code into the channel is generally considered antisocial on IRC anyway, and pastebin services are used for this. It's not unusual for a company to provide their own internal pastebin services anyway, since it's generally useful with other systems like email. Ditto file sharing.

> "Oh come on can we drop the cat pictures trope?"

No, because in my personal experience that is OVERWHELMINGLY the most frequently used feature of slack/etc that's not present in IRC. For every time I've seen pasted code, I've seen easily a hundred inane pasted memes. I wouldn't bring it up if I didn't earnestly believe it's the primary reason people prefer systems other than IRC.


Yeah, but how do you even do that? Like, realistically - step-by-step

Look at all the other people commenting about how terrible the experience was for them?

I'm very, very skeptical of jaded "professionals" that quickly make a diagnosis and move you along the pharma train. I'm also concerned by my location that I may not even have access to "Good Professionals?"

It seems like talking to a professional without a deep prior level of introspection and self-research is precisely the expressway to being on a road that might not even work. (What if I have ADHD and get treatment for something else entirely, or vice versa?)

This thread fits someone like myself perfectly: I feel lazy, I'm certainly depressed, and I experience burnout all the time, and I have absolutely no idea how to actually seek out help.

Simplistic comments like yours always aggravate me a la:

"Call your attorney or seek legal council for further information" (not many people have a lawyer on retainer, bud)

So, I'm very likely to seek out information from the internet from people who have been in my shoes and have helped themselves, and until I get a solid feeling that I know how to proceed safely, I will continue to do so.


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