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I guess introduce non-essential paid features but I still wonder how that can cover the cost of channels uploading 1.5GB files ad infinitum. https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-are-you-going-to-make-money-o...


Signal runs as a non profit foundation. You need paying members to cover costs, but not many (see WhatsApp before Facebook) or an endowment.


Yeah, but signal seems much smaller than telegram, and I think it doesn't keep data on the server after it is delivered ?


I believe that’s accurate today, but not a huge delta if they choose to support a rich experience like Telegram does in the future.

1 TB stored in Backblaze B2 is $5/month plus egress/CDN charges.


Signal also limits file size and type. You can't even share a video much larger than 100mb.


Thanks for asking and hope you are doing well! I unfortunately got dumped by a girl I was dating, lost my job and a (non-nuclear) family member while living in Manhattan, NYC. I thought I was holding up okay but once my gym shut down and social events shut down (before later transitioning to videoconference) my mental state and diet declined fast. The lack of human contact was mitigated to an extent by virtual social events but i feel exhausted by them after a short while. All but a couple people I know my age (mid 20s) are still in the city. Since my landlord offered no help and my lease is up, I’ll be contributing to my building’s overwhelming vacancies next week when I move back in with my folks out West.


Loneliness can be a serious problem. You really really do need some social contact. To keep things safe, I think the best approach is to have a small group of people who meet with each other but nobody outside the group. It won't hurt to also keep some distance to each other.


Any suggestions for doing so would be helpful to me (and hopefully the OP). If you have any specific ideas, please reply. When you don't have a small group of people to begin with, this is really difficult advice to follow


Ideally, get in touch with a few friends or neighbours. If you really don't know anyone in the vicinity, I'd suggest finding some like-minded people online and agree to meet in person. Or get to know your neighbours.


Sounds like a lot stuff to deal with at the same time. This would be hard for anyone. Hopefully the move back out West feels like a bit of a fresh start and you get back on your feet quickly! :)


You have my sympathy re: the breakup. Why is it "Since my landlord offered no help and my lease is up" instead of " my rent is due, but I can't afford it". You make it sound like the landlord is at fault.


In the UK we have a rent/mortgage holiday to protect us from these unprecedented times. I'd probably blame everything other than myself if I went from being a professional living in Manhattan to unemployed and unable to pay rent. Sometimes the carpet can just be pulled out from under us and it sucks.


It was pulled out from under the landlord, too.


Financial investments are inherently risky. It amazes me how people are such huge proponents of upside gains, but find unpalatable the idea of downside risk.


The housing market is terrible at the moment - if you were to kick the tenant out you'd probably still be waiting until this is over before you're guaranteed to get a new tenant anyway. Plus the usual estate agency overheads. I'm slightly too financially conservative/liberal to say landlords are in the wrong to kick tenants out during this crisis, but only slightly. Which is saying something! I'm glad that in the UK we have some government support to help both tenants and landlords.


My lease will end without the option for renewing because the apartment was rented out from under me sight-unseen. I'm fully paid up on rent. I was never given notice or the ability to renew said lease. This isn't just "It's the landlord's fault" in my opinion. I've seen plenty about evictions - but leases expiring are something I see under represented.


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