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Folks on reddit and hackernews aren't normal people. Outside of this bubble few people have heard of linux. Hell so few people I know use firefox which makes me mad. You are safe from that fear.


Thinking of buying shorts on twitter now with all the dumb ass news going around...


Elon bought the company and took it public. Can't really buy traditional shorts on it anymore as it's a private company.


You can't buy shares or shorts of a company that is privately owned.

The best you could do is find a prediction market and bet against specific metrics.


The best you can do is find a correlated stock (Tesla) and short that instead. I think if Twitter goes bankrupt, you can expect Tesla to enter free-fall.


> I think if Twitter goes bankrupt, you can expect Tesla to enter free-fall.

I think a drop in Tesla share price would be likely, but I don't see why it would hit freefall?


Tesla's current share price is extremely inflated - the market has priced in Elon Musk's genius magic. If this genius magic turns out to be a total fraud, Tesla stock price should go down to levels reflecting the stock price of a similarly sized/revenue producing car company.

To give you an idea:

Tesla revenue: 74.86B

Toyota revenue: 260.13B

Tesla market cap: 498.56B

Toyota market cap: 234.96B

That's roughly a 7.4x difference in expectation vs. reality.


I would hazard that some of that expectation is due to Tesla's potential for growth due to expected growth of the EV market.

I also think that a lot of anti-Musk sentiment has already been priced in. While a Twitter bankruptcy would absolutely have some further impact on that sentiment, it doesn't seem immediately obvious that it would wipeout all of Musk's fanatical support.

Given that, an immediate drop to 13% of Tesla's current value seems like a significant overestimate if Tesla keeps hitting sales and production targets. If Twitter bankruptcy accompanies a significant reduction in Tesla sales, I could see a drop of that size or larger, but not from a Twitter bankruptcy alone.


If not for Musks genius magic, why do you think Tesla deserves to be priced 7x higher than Toyota? I can see an argument for 2x maybe? But 7x is a massive difference considering Toyota is a not a company run by frauds, it is a serious company with ability to pivot into EV market in due time.


Toyota and other manufacturers will absolutely pivot into EVs, but most of their gains in EV sales will come (on average) at the cost of non-EV sales as the non-EV market shrinks.

Tesla however does not sell non-EVs so stands only to gain as the non-EV market shrinks. This makes up some amount of the expectations that give Tesla a higher share price per current revue than other car makers.

Thus even if Musk's "genius magic" effect on stock price goes away complete, that seems unlikey to eliminate all expectations for more growth from Tesla than other car manufacturers.

That said, I think we mostly agree now as I think a drop by 2/3rds in Tesla price is not out of the realms of possibility. It's hard to guage how big the "genius magic" effect is on stock price.

Personally, I suspect that significant issues (especially regulatory) around FSD are more likely to crater the growth expectations of Tesla than any Twitter bankruptcy.


Tesla has already dropped 24% since we last talked ;)


Sound analysis, pretty much agree with you.


Thing is it hasn't moved as much as you think. People have moved from poverty to lower middle class not actually middle class. If consider middle class as between 20k to 40k a month and lower middle class at 10k to 20k a month and below 10k as poor then most poor people have only moved to lower middle class only.


So what exactly is the use of GPUs like A100 apart from in mining cryptocurrencies ? Also isn't mining cryptos banned in China? Am I missing something?


The A100 isn’t a miner. It trains machine learning models. It’s being replaced by the H100 shortly, which is part of the ban, too.


>It probably pleases the people who were paying you, because now they don't have to subsidise the people who aren't.

Bullshit. It's unclear communication and indecisiveness that pisses people off. If you can't afford it, there is no reason for you to give something for free and then later take it away. People who are paying will feel that samething will happen to them in other ways. You want consistency.


You would prefer to never get a thing for free rather than have it at no cost for a brief period in time?


Having something for free but for a brief period of time is actually really inconvenient if you think about it. You are basically forced to move or find some alternative. You want consistency.


All your arguments are very specific to yourself and is not necessarily indicative of "All teens". 20 years ago we didn't have the so called social media we have today. And back then we didn't have that problem atleast not to the extent we have today.


I think the end goal of Amazon is to replace these employees with bot and to automate manual labour work. Until then all this is just ways to delay the unionization as much as possible.


I don't get it, why does it matter at all? Isn't it just a perception. If you live in Alaska there are days where there is always sunlight and similarly days where there is no light.


Despite being able to survive in nearly any earth climate, much of human biology evolved in a narrow environmental context.

Yes, humans survive in Iceland, but since a lot of our evolution occurred under near-equatorial sun, people notice that some of the “nice to have” chemical reactions in our body (e.g. our circadian rhythm) are less common when there.

If one’s prefrontal cortex decides to use executive functioning to have the rest of the brain “ignore” that problem, that’s one solution, but many people can’t do that or find it very taxing to do so.


Even that can achieved by changing the time you do things. Like schools can be 1 hour early at a particular time of the year instead of changing time for everybody else.

Honestly I can't think of a single legitimate reason why you would want to hang onto daylight saving time.


Was this even an argument? it felt more like "We should have a Jewish state because we can and there nothing anyone can do about it, if you are not Jewish go fuck yourself. "

History has nothing to do what is happening today. You are just trying to drive the narrative anyway you can.


> History has nothing to do what is happening today

Sure OK, I can really see you gave this a lot of thought.


His other games didn't load on firefox for me.


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