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This raises deep questions: What even is creativity? How does taste emerge? Is it just the accumulation of your experiences and your genetics, or is there something else to it? If it's just experiences and genetics, AI will probably outpace humans at some point, because these are just very sophisticated patterns. And if it's not, we would have to assume something metaphysical, for which we do not have evidence.

This is a really fascinating topic, and I think it might give us new insight into the human condition. I'm excited to see where this leads us.


I like this take. if LLMs = average of human culture like tern said, then taste = the ability to create and recognize the above average (and best), right?

can AI recognize what is best? can AI create what is recognized as best?

(you know how vast majority of humans think they are above average drivers?)


I think that begs the question, what is 'average' or 'best'? It's music enjoyed by many people. Why do they enjoy it? Because it matches their taste in music. I think we're ultimately going to get super-personalised recommendations and even original artworks tailored exactly to what we like. The true challenge in implementing this will be to find a way to 'generalise taste adaptation'. Creating a model that can adapt to any person's taste based on as little information as possible. I think that will give us very deep insights into how our preferences are formed as research progresses.

I'm sometimes scared that life will loose its spark when AI is just able to solve any problem better or faster than humans. I think music generation is scary, because music is often created using your intuition, rather than relying on general principles or strict rules alone. Intuition feels almost magical, because it feels like you somehow just know the right thing to do, without having to reason about it. If AI gained this hard-to-grasp 'intuition', that would reveal that we are just biological machines after all, and intuition is simply a sophisticated hidden pattern.


yes


I tried AI music for the first time today and I can definitely see why people say it feels bland, because it does. But most of what's on the radio today feels bland to me too. You're right - I don't really care if the track playing in my favourite cafe is AI-generated or not. You're not supposed to be emotionally invested into background music, it's music for a simple purpose and for most people, AI can fill that purpose as well as a human. Licensing fees is also a great point, human music royalties are complex and expensive, while AI generated music is a monthly subscription at most.

I can't say I fully agree with you on video game/movie soundtracks, but I think AI generated assets will make game development more accessible, especially for solo developers or small teams.

So I'd just say listen to what you like, see where technology leads us. I don't think human creators will be put out of buisiness any time soon, but they might get competition especially in 'functional' music.


>You're right - I don't really care if the track playing in my favourite cafe is AI-generated or not. You're not supposed to be emotionally invested into background music

I guess different strokes but some of the best music I've ever been turned on to just happened to be playing in some random cafe or coffee shop. Conversely if the music is bland and uninspired I'm much less likely to go back.


Honestly, AI-created music in physical spaces has the potential to be even better than what currently exists. Imagine in real time being able to create a soundtrack that matches the mood and vibe of the current atmosphere. When the crowd is bustling, have the audio match that; tone it down when the night wears on, the people have disbursed. Sometimes you go into a Starbucks late at night in Tokyo and they're blasting Led Zeplin–that's probably not exactly what the audience wants to hear. There is potential, with a slightly dystopian tint to it.


Sounds awful. Truly. Living your whole life in the median. Led Zepplin late at night is exactly what I want to hear in a Starbucks in Tokyo becuse it's surpising, exciting. Get out more.


Agreed. There is a sandwich place called Jimmy Johns and sometimes they’ll be playing crazy metal music and is kind of fun as long as I’m getting takeout.


This has been downvoted but I'll heartily second these. Some of my best cafe experiences have been places where the people running it had taste. That meant making good coffee, decorating it well, and of course, playing great music. I've found so many great songs from good cafes. The average yuppie-aesthetic cafe with generic wall art and spotify trending playing is no fun.


Sounds sort of 'cyberpunk-ish' to me, an AI nightclub. I think I'm neutral on this, but it will be interesting to see what we will do with it.


Why would you need to generate the music to get that? Just have an AI DJ.


"At that moment, Iran said, when I had the TV sound off, I was in a 382 mood; I had just dialed it. So although I heard the emptiness intellectually, I didn’t feel it. My first reaction consisted of being grateful that we could afford a Penfield mood organ. But then I realized how unhealthy it was, sensing the absence of life, not just in this building but everywhere, and not reacting — do you see?"


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