They've improved performance dramatically in the last few weeks, might have fixed your issues.

Its clear they've been shipping a lot of windows updates.

It does seem significantly better on Windows. I'll give it another chance over the next couple weeks.

Cursor has the best Tab model, and I feel like their lead there has kept growing - they're doing some really cool things there. https://cursor.com/blog/tab-rl

I wonder how much the methods/systems/data transfer, if they can pull off the same with their agentic coding model that would be exciting.

Tab model is fantastic but I wish it was somehow aware of the conversation happening in the currently active AI chat session.

We also are big Tab users here at Cursor. In the blog we talk about the motivation for this project came from thinking about a Tab-like agent.

I agree, I tried to switch to Zed this week, and I prefer it in all respects, but the tab model is much worse, and it made me switch back. I never imagined I would care so much about a feature I felt was secondary.

I actually find myself using the agent mode less now, I like keeping code lean by hand and avoid technical debt. But I do use the tab completions constantly and they are fantastic now ever since they can jump around the file.

I feel like that's like having a lead in producing better buggy whips.

I run Claude Code in the background near constantly for a variety of projects, with --dangerously-skip-permissions, and review progress periodically. Tabbing is only relevant when it's totally failing to make progress and I have to manually intervene, and that to me is a failure scenario that is happening less and less often.

What are you building with this workflow? Is it an application live in production with users? It is such a foreign way of working to me.

A compiler (hobby project). A web application server (tooling for my consultancy). An agentic framework to part-automate end-to-end development of a large web app (customer project). An analytics platform to analyze infrastructure maturity (customer project).

Usually I'll have several Claude Code sessions running in parallel on different projects, and when one of them stops I will review the code for that project and start it again - either moving forwards or re-doing things that have issues.

We build mostly everything with this workflow, and we indeed have a lot of paid applications in production with users. Most what we do is SaaS. We do have rigid human code reviews though.

This is just a completely different use of LLMs and has little to do with working at a real business with a live site and users. Cursor is great when you want to gain understanding of an issue quickly, or resolve something clear and specific quickly.

I'm not against YOLO vibe coding, but being against tab completion is just insane to me. At the end of the day, LLMs help you achieve goals quicker. You still need to know what goal you want to achieve, and tab completion basically let's me complete a focused goal nearly as soon as I determine what my goal is.

Some of these projects are at a "real business with a live site and users". Two of the current ones are.

And it's not remotely "YOLO vibe coding". All the code gets reviewed, and tested thoroughly, and they are worked to specs, and gated by test suites.

What I don't do is babysit the LLM until it's code passes both the test suite and automated review stages, because it's a waste of time.

Others of these projects are research tasks. While I wrote this comment, Claude unilaterally fixed a number of bugs in a compiler.

To be clear, Claude probably also introduced the bugs?

I tried to use an appropriate emoji to express the joking nature of this comment, but HN silently filtered it out, so pretend you see a grinning face.

No, Claude did not introduce the bugs. I caused the bugs, years ago, and didn't have time to pursue the project for a long time. Claude fixed them by being handed unfinished, broken code and a test suite and told to make the tests pass.

Ah, that's great. I've also found LLM agents extremely helpful for reviving old projects.

It's great. BUT: Wish they had selected another shortcut like shift+tab.

Every time I write code myself I find myself racing the AI to get an indentation in before the AI is done... gets annoying

You can change the key bind, I personally set it to ctrl+tab

What makes it and different from vscodes copilot completions?

Have you tried Windsurfs?

Coming soon! Thanks for commenting, helps inform prioritization :)

Sorry about that! I don't see any matching errors from 2 hours ago in our logs - if you reach out to the contact@ email address with the email you used in Autotab, I'd be happy to take a closer look

Quoting my cofounder from another thread:

For 2FA, different users take different approaches. Everything from teaching Autotab to pull auth codes from their email, to setting intervention requests at the top of their skills, to enterprise integrations that we support with SSO and dedicated machine accounts.

Autotab also has the ability to securely sync session data from your local app to cloud instances. This usually removes the need for doing 2FA again for sites with “remember this device” functionality.

We can enable captcha solving for select customers, but don’t allow that in the public app to prevent abuse.

Assuming the bank’s websites look totally different from one another, you’d need open ended exploration to data extraction. We’ve focused more on reliability for repetitive tasks over flexibility for open ended tasks historically, but models are getting good enough that this tradeoff is diminishing. Expect updates from us on this front soon.

You can schedule skills in Autotab to run at arbitrary frequency.

Agree on the tradeoff between ability to handle novel situations and speed/cost. Autotab uses a “ladder of compute” system that escalates to the minimal level of compute required to solve a given subtask. I wrote a longer comment about this on another thread

Indeed! A little secret: Internally we call the skills/workflows in Autotab macros :)

Currently there is a bit of a learning curve for training Autotab to be really reliable in hard cases. We expect we’ll be able to decrease significantly in the next few months, as we get models to do more of the thinking about how to best codify a given task solution/workflow. As an intuition pump for why we expect such rapid progress: in the scenario you described you’d just have a model write the VBA code for you.

Thanks! We currently have to manually add Chrome extensions on our side, but plan on supporting users installing arbitrary extensions in the future. So far we’ve found that most apps offer web UIs with the same functionality as the extension and Autotab can just use those.

What extension would you like to automate?