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When you get a "Permission denied (publickey)." if you try to connect to a server which requires a public key for authentication, it causes your 5 lines to wrongly raise an alarm ... you need to adapt your grep.

It's a fine movie, agreed. The movie's focus isn't on revenge, but on the interaction between the protagonists. Anyways, the story outline heavily reminds me of the classic "The Count of Monte Cristo" by Dumas.

Disclaimer: I never read Stephen King's original short story, on which the movie is based, so I cannot say how this compares to Dumas' classic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Count_of_Monte_Cristo


There’s a scene in the movie directly acknowledging this when they are sorting the books for the expanded library. Heywood calls it the Count of Monte Crisco by Alexandree Dumbass and Andy says it’s about a prison break. Heywood then suggests it should go in the educational section.

Excellent, memorable scene.

But it is Red who suggests it should be filed under ‘education’!


You maybe right. I found a clip of it on YT, but it cuts off right before that line.

Ghibli movies are a different class of movies, but the exact thing that you describe "absorbs us and takes away the awareness that we are watching a film" is what happends to me. The story is so intriguing that I even "forget" that I'm watching a painted movie.

Spirited Away contains an accurate review of itself in the title!

I like the use of happends in this context, a good mixture of tenses

Here's a reading and listening tip for handling social media addiction:

Frank Possemato: How to Live an Analog Life in a Digital World: A Workbook for Living Soulfully in an Age of Overload

How to live an analog life in a digital world | Frank Possemato | TEDxBU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEMffdUgWCk

He does not say stop everything, but instead offers realistic tips to reduce one's dependency, e.g. he suggests to take breakes and training to stay offline for certain intervals (e.g. half an hour, or an hour)


When it's a streaming service, it might be equally worse IMO, but a bit less so if it's music you own. But anyways, I call these folks "electro autists" (with apologies to real autists) as they are rarely reachable for social interactions. Saying "good morning" in the elevator? No chance. Nor recognizing people left or right.

Or in the gym, where they block machines for many minutes, i.e. much more than the one or two minutes of resting in between sets, while paging through social media in between sets. Asking them to unblock a machine in the gym? Some are reachable there if you stand in front of them and wave your hands.

And walking the dog, or strolling with kids while on "social" media. I often observe them to neither recognize when either dog or kid try to show them things or events. I sometimes wonder (aloud and near them ;-), if they phone with their companions.

Oldie but Goldie: Charlene Guzman's video "I forgot my phone" from 12 years ago:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=OINa46HeWg8

I like music and I like videos, but I also learned to concentrate on the task at hand and/or the people besides me.

Disclaimer: listening to music while doing chores like washing dishes is OK. But I prefer a dish washer and connect to people while the dish washer is running.


> When it's a streaming service, it might be equally worse IMO, but a bit less so if it's music you own.

That's what I was thinking about when I mentioned teleological arguments. A stream is programmed by somebody else and who knows if they are trying to please me or their partners. I do use music streaming services, but these days I try to listen to entire albums.

I get what you are saying about wearing headphones in public places. I have ear buds that have a fantastic transparent mode where I get a mix of music and outside noises sent to my ears. As soon as I start talking, it pauses the music. In theory, you would be able to ask me to press the elevator button for you but having ear buds in usually communicates do-not-disturb.

That video is great and I hadn't seen it before. Thanks for linking it.


> A stream is programmed by somebody else and who knows if they are trying to please me or their partners.

That's one problem, yes. The other, more subtle, might be that one cannot really develop a personal taste. If you have a CD (or nowadays Vinyl ;-) you can listen to it even when the artist isn't in the stream any more.

I'm a fan of J. J. Cale's music for example, and have a number of his CDs (ripped for convenient mobile handling, of course) so can mix my own "stream" to take with me and listen to it when I'm in the mood. I'm a fan of Bach, Händel, Telemann too, own a number CDs of course, and when I'm in the mood for a relaxing bit of classic I can "stream" my own selection. So I decide what to listen to and I decide when to do it, depending on my mood.

Just some days ago I learned that many people sell their CD collection and you can find them in cheap batches on Ebay. When I suddenly remember a long forgotten artist (forgotten by me as time goes by), I will be able to grab a CD, rip it and listen to things I remember. Doing that with a streaming service? Tough thing, I suppose.

I do listen to music new to me (mainly on Youtube) every now and then, and learn about artists I didn't know, but if I really like enough of their work, I'll get a CD. Which, BTW, is not always easy for certain niche artists which either publish a limited set of vinyl and/or downloadable collections only nowadays.


Seen yesterday on someone's blog

[You Need A Kitchen Slide Rule](https://entropicthoughts.com/kitchen-slide-rule)


EBCDIC wasn't the problem, this was (part of) the problem:

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.1.0?topic=execution-systsi...

And BITNET …


> EBCDIC wasn't the problem

Wake up, everyone! Brand new sentence just dropped!


"BITNET was a co-operative university computer network in the United States founded in 1981 by Ira Fuchs at the City University of New York (CUNY) and Greydon Freeman at Yale University."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET

BITNET connected mainframes, had gateways to the Unix world and was still active in the 90s. And limited line lengths … some may remember SYSIN DD DATA … oh my goodness …

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.1.0?topic=execution-systsi...


"Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."

"That, more or less, is the short answer to the supposedly incredibly complicated and confusing question of what we humans should eat in order to be maximally healthy."

Unhappy Meals - Michael Pollan https://michaelpollan.com/articles-archive/unhappy-meals/


Advice like this is right, in theory.

Just like: Don't smoke, don't drink, work-out, take walks, spend time with your family and friends, don't work too much. Also, don't worry too much!

All the real problems come in practice.

Don't get me wrong, it's good to have a solid basis.

However, 80% of success comes from applying these things in your messy life.


The idea behind that phrase is not that is necessarily easy... but to decomplicate the other extreme where you are choosing this superfood and avoiding that other veg because it is "bad for you". It gives a simple heuristic for healthy living. It helps make it less daunting.

For example what do I have for breakfast? Oh let's boil and egg amd grab a carrot and corn on the cob. Or whatever.

What do I do in the supermarket? Meats, veg, bit of fruit maybe bit of dairy. Am I obessing over avacado vs. pear. Nope. Chicken vs. beef? No. Chocolate bar vs carrot? easy choice.

Now probably once you get thay square you can do harder stuff like food reaction / allergy testing and so on.


Premature optimization is a thing in life AND in programming. Many folks make it far more complicated than it needs to be.

I regularly see folks agonizing about every decision and new study, but the thing is.... the tips on OP's very basic list are responsible for like 80% of the value one gets from "living healthy".

All the rest of the organic whole grain horseshit and panicking about microplastics MIGHT net you another 10%, but at double the cost to your happiness.

The last 10% is basically impossible to achieve without completely sacrificing your quality of life.


Realistically who is avoiding a vegetable because “it is bad for you”? Never heard of that.

Everyone knows that vegetables are good for you basically always.

Superfoods are just the latest marketing fad


Anecdiatelly I have heard one about some veggies are worse than others for being hard to get pesticide off if not organic. Also too many bananas. Too many eggs etc.

And those were before Facebook lol


Google “plants are trying to kill you”

The latest social media brain rot is that vegetables are bad for you.

Grifters in this space include Paul Saladino and Anthony Chaffee.


But then why work? Lets assume everyone will follow your advice, then we all could work less, may be just 4 a day. If so, then why do not we change the work day to 4 h? It is not like all bad food, tobacco, etc will be gone, but we will not produce all that in such huge quantities.


"The History of every major Galactic Civilization tends to pass through three distinct and recognizable phases, those of Survival, Inquiry and Sophistication, otherwise known as the How, Why, and Where phases. For instance, the first phase is characterized by the question 'How can we eat?' the second by the question 'Why do we eat?' and the third by the question 'Where shall we have lunch?" - Douglas Adams

Folks on HN are very much in the "Where" stage of life. No one here works 4 out of 8 hours just to pay for their food. Nobody should.

That said, you very much seem to be missing the point. Ultra processed food is far, far cheaper than whole foods. That is one reason they are more popular.

For example, it would cost me more just to buy the ingredients to make tacos at home than it does to go through a Taco Bell drive through and buy enough for the family already prepared.

We're not going to be moving to four hour workdays by feeding people food that costs twice as much and takes longer to prepare.


My brother and his wife began cooking pretty much every meal at home a couple years ago. Prior to that they ate out very regularly, especially once they had kids.

They started cooking because feeding the family of 5 at McDonalds cost close to $80.

There may have been a time where fast food was cheaper, but it seems we're past that.

As far as Taco Bell goes, a single crunchy taco is $2.19 and their fancier ones are closer to $5. When I used to eat there I'd usually get 3 tacos and a drink, so I'd be into that today for something like $10-$11. I cook tacos at home regularly for cheaper, and with homemade tortillas and grass fed beef no less.


> They started cooking because feeding the family of 5 at McDonalds cost close to $80.

How much would they eat from McDonald’s? And what size appetite are the kids?

Fast food has definitely gone up in price, but if you’re spending $80 at McDonalds you’re either a glutton or you don’t know what to order.

A “Big Mac Bundle Box” is $15-20 depending on region. It has two Big Macs, two Cheeseburgers, two fries, and a 10-piece nuggets.

If three of the five are kids (vs say 16+ boys lifting weights), I’d be curious how two of those wouldn’t feed the entire family for $30-40.

I’m not suggesting cooking at home is a bad thing nor that eating McD is a good one. But the details matter when you’re spending 2x more than it could be.


Oh I'm sure some of the cost is because both my brother and their teenage son can eat some food. They're both in good shape, they just exercise quite a bit and have always had an appetite.

I also thought $80 for 5 was high, but that was his anecdotal number. I would have expected $50-60 pretty reasonably, and still st that point a family of 5 could eat for a good bit cheaper at home.


You are right, I stand corrected. It's been about 10 years since I last did the math and it's changed dramatically since then.

I'm sure it varies by region, but my grubhub app and the 12 pack of tacos (hard or soft) is $24.99 here so about the same as the $2.19 you found.

I had perplexity pro figure out the cost of purchasing the ingredients for comparable homemade tacos. With great value (Walmart store brand) ingredients it came to $20.04. $6.49 of that would be "left over" ingredients you don't use (mostly half a pound of beef you could use for something else later).

So you save $0.96 cents per taco by doing all the work yourself and using generic ingredients. Plus you get an extra half pound of beef for later.

So if your time is worth less than $12/hr it's a net gain.

I'm assuming it takes you only half an hour to travel, shop, and bring home the ingredients then half an hour to cook. If you live further away, factor in gas etc, the time it takes to do dishes, or are a slower cook then the break-even might come out closer to $6-$7/hr.


When we make tacos it takes around 30-45 minutes, including making fresh flour tortillas.

Tortillas themselves use very little, a cup of flour and a couple tablespoons of butter so maybe $1-$2? The beef we use is around $12/lb and we use 1/2lb to feed two of us. I don't have a cost on the seasoning, we mix it fresh as well so its negligible.

I'd assume we end up around $10 to feed two adults and spend around 45 minutes on the high end. We'd spend about that long to get to taco bell, though we live in a more rural area so that may be an over estimate for most.


> Ultra processed food is far, far cheaper than whole foods.

I think this is mostly true in the US and a cultural thing.

In EU and SA for example I can buy “whole” food - just called food here - for a fraction of the price it would cost me to buy a bunch of cheeseburgers or some other junk food every day.


It isn't remotely true even in the US, anyone claiming this doesn't know how to cook anything.

>> Ultra processed food is far, far cheaper than whole foods

Is it? What is the cost of bag of rice? Potatoes? lentils?


Anyone who believes something like this you can be 100% sure doesn't know how to cook even the most basic of staple foods. Cooking your own food is nearly an order of magnitude cheaper and, with a few cheap spices and seasonings, almost always tastier. The only valid argument is prep time here, and that too even only applies to certain kinds of foods.

Also, drink a lot of water or tea.


And if you're British, tea on its own might do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTocYVghimE


And enjoy protein deficiency?

Vegetarian India literally suffers from one of the highest rates of protein deficiency and stunted growth worldwide.


Eating mostly plants does not mean one has to have protein deficiency.

Seitan, tofu, tempeh, TVP, etc etc. All plant based, all high protein.


Us Westerners could cut down on the starch, add more salad and greens and pretty easily meet this requirement I think.

I don’t know if we need as much animal foodstuff as we consume but just doing that should be enough.


Are you ignoring the "mostly" in mostly plants?

That isn’t because of being vegetarian but because of poverty.

Then eat protein-dense plant foods like tempeh and tofu.

Source?

But but but the influencers are telling me to put nothing but cheeseburgers and testosterone in my body and that just coincidentally reinforces with what I want to do anyway!


I love how this gets presented as obvious advice, yet explains nothing and introduces an even less well defined thing it will do: "be maximally healthy".


It's just a dietary heuristic, why would it have to explain everything? If you want that, just go and look at the literature on overweight and obesity or, say, substitution of animal protein for plant protein. It's all there.


It isn't a dietary heuristic, because there's little advice provided. The extreme is that it is advising people to seek treatment if they suffer from pica or bulimia.

By heuristic, I just mean “a rule used in decision making”.

Under that usage, the fact that the rule doesn’t provide fine-grained advice doesn’t disqualify it from being a heuristic. Eating mostly plants is a rule used in decision making when considering what to eat.

> The extreme is that it is advising people to seek treatment if they suffer from pica or bulimia.

How is that entailed?


> "be maximally healthy".

It's the bare minimum if you care about aging well, maximally healthy is a whole other thing


The whole article, if actually read, explains a lot. Not the least how we came from talking about "food" to talk about single ingredients instead. Which then are hailed as the "solution" for all of today's problems with nutrition. Until the next big thing comes along.

I am not sure we can take a slogan from 2007 as a state of the art understanding.

But I am biased. I‘ve seen this slogan everywhere to promote UPFs that claim to be healthy because they are „vegan“.

Now that the market for meat alternatives has collapsed I don’t see this reasoning anymore. What a strange coincidence.


> the market for meat alternatives has collapsed

What country are you reporting from? It seems to be absolutely booming in the UK. A brief internet search suggests it's growing and predicted to boom in the US as well.


Yeah, though my Beyond Meat shares beg to differ on that. Down 95%!


That could be due to increasing competition? They had high brand awareness during the 2010s but (in the UK at least) we're seeing competitors like This and Alt, as well as cheap own-brand versions, coming onto the shelves in a big way.


UPF meat substitutes do tend to be healthier than their meat-based equivalent (see the SWAP-MEAT trial, for example).

I think people really underestimate how bad meat is for you.

It's extremely high in saturated fat and lots of meat is carcinogenic. We classify bacon in the same category of carcinogen as alcohol and tobacco. Meaning, we know, for sure, it causes cancer.


Yeah, IMO there’s a continuum between lean meats that I’d classify as relatively middle-of-the-road healthwise (like chicken), and processed red meat (pretty adverse health outcomes even from small amounts), and the fact that there’s a “butter and bacon are health foods” movement seems insane to me.

Unfortunately trends towards plant-based food seem to have taken a step backwards in recent years and I suspect the current moral panic around UPFs hasn’t helped. But the evidence on UPFs as harmful is pretty tenuous at the moment, while the evidence on meat and adverse health effects is considerably more comprehensive.


>I am not sure we can take a slogan from 2007 as a state of the art

Me neither, I prefer common knowledge that has stood the test of time for a lot longer, like about 100 years more.

Not my downvote btw, corrective upvote actually.


I take monthly notes with the excellent app Markor, keep my daily diary with the nice app Diary and share lists, notes, todos with family members via Joplin (stores data on my own WebDAV server).

So almost everything is text (with markup/markdown) and can thus easily be synced and merged between devices via rsync, ssh and perl or shell scripts.

Example: when I want to look up notes in either markor's or diary's files, that's easily accomplished with a shell script, e.g.

  cd ~/storage/shared/Documents/markor
  if [[ $# == 0 ]] ; then
     exec zsh
  else
    grep -i "$@" **/*(.) | less
  fi
Instead of grep I could even use agrep to handle typos. I can start a simple web server on the phone or tablet, if needed:

  python -m http.server $PORT --bind 0.0.0.0
and view media files from another device (mobile, desktop, laptop, … whatever.

And there's exiftool, ffmpeg, ImageMagick, scripting languages, all in reach, wherever I go.

Markor: https://f-droid.org/packages/net.gsantner.markor

Diary: https://f-droid.org/packages/org.billthefarmer.diary


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