Is that python code that runs on postgres? how does this work..

do you have a hello world we can check out? i'm confused af.

Yep, we'll evolve patterns which facilitate system to system interaction better than the ones we had built for human in the loop by humans. That's inevitable. CRUD apps with a frontend will be considered legacy etc. They'll be replaced by more efficient means we haven't even considered. We live in an exciting time.

That could be AI 2.0 vs AI 1.0 like what we're in now?

Better and cheaper hardware too. Maybe it'll be DeAI? (decentralized)

Will combine with Crypto 2.0 - whatever that may be.

The only real downside is we will collapse society but that's a small price to pay for progress.

Think of the shareholder value we made!

I won't read the article but I think this is the role that will remain for humans, to be the 'fall guy' when the vibes go wrong. You will have to live in chronic stress, on call so to speak, so when prod goes down, you will take the blame. Maybe that vibe coded PR you didn't and couldn't read contained a serious bug or security lapse, maybe the system design you didn't do but approved contained a RCE you never knew about. Fun times ahead.

Why was this flagged? It's the best thing i've read here in a while.

This is all well and good but Elixir with Phoenix and Liveview is super bloated and you have to have a real reason to buy into such a monster that you couldn't do with a simpler stack.

I'm not sure I agree with the "bloated" description, but I will say that I really like Elixir, and really dislike LiveView. Which is a shame, because the latter is pretty inescapable in Elixir world these days.

Interesting take. I’m an Elixir fanboy because I find LiveView to be very slim. You’re just sending state diffs over WebSocket and updating the DOM with MorphDOM. The simplicity is incomparable to state of the art with JavaScript frameworks in my humble opinion.

I'd use something like a lightweight python framework (take your pick) and pair it with htmx. You can run that on low powered hardware or a cheap VPS. I can't even dev elixir on my N100 minipc, it's too demanding. Otherwise Python and SolidJS or Preact will work perfectly for a SPA.

> I can't even dev elixir on my N100 minipc, it's too demanding.

Isn't the N100 a quad core machine? It can't run Elixir?

It can but it feels very sluggish developing in my ide of choice (vscode). I also miss having a debugger which is nonnegotiable for me.

That seems more complicated than jQuery

So did you go back to and keep using C#/NET?

well for backend development, yes - I technically never stopped as I had existing projects to maintain. But after trying out Swift a couple times, I've dropped it entirely for backend. For new backend work it's C#/.NET all the way.

I wanted to try using a native language other than C++ and Swift ostensibly seemed easier to pick up. I continue to use Swift for iOS app development though where it is much easier to use; but that has its own share of compromises and trade-offs - but not centred around Swift, around SwiftUI vs UIKit.

is go the same? what is the consensus best pick right now I wonder, is it C#?

Best pick for what? It always depends, and there is certainly no consensus.

Hm it's on amazon but you gotta pay for the secondary sub. Did look interesting but oh well.

Everything is like that on Prime. Makes me wonder what the point of a subscription is if you've got to pay for practically everything?

It's gotten so ridiculous, my wife was in tears trying to get at a show a few days ago and we have like all the subscriptions. Now that it's cross-services subs to services within subs, some hosted by the top level, some a separate app/site/login even though you signed up somewhere else, it's a friggin' nightmare!

It's a total mess. I pay a sub to gain access and not have adverts. Awful.

That's interesting. I'm having the same problem. I usually have it after my workout in the evening. Should I try moving it to earlier in the day?

I take it first thing in the morning and only have this issue early in the day. I don't know if that has some effect on its efficacy but it is more convenient for me.

In my experience, it's the workout itself that ruins sleep when it's in the evening. My theory is that it's because of the adrenaline generated by muscle strain.