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It’s great at least on macOS and iOS.

Profiles on the macOS version made me switch to it from Safari as my daily driver.


I've been waiting on their implementation of Compact Tabs. While controversial for some, I personally feel that the new compact tab designs in Safari are a far better user experience and use of space. Kagi's CEO completely disagrees with this, and they're implementing a design similar to Internet Explorer 9.

I really want to use Kagi, but I think that their design principals are antithetical with mine and may others.

But, I think it's great for a lot of people, particularly those that seek alternative browsers.


Just tried the compact tabs in Safari and that’s a great design!


A lot of people never buy a home. And to my knowledge the number of people who will never be able to afford to buy a home is only increasing.

So yes indeed, renting is not my preferred way of dealing with housing in our society, but it is the reality for a lot of people.


It depends where you live and if you’re willing to move.

A friend of mine couldn’t afford a house in SF, so he bought 3 elsewhere and the rent income paid for the mortgage on his 4th.

People can always move and make it work. I’ve seen the poorest people I know buy a few acres and quite literally camp as they build a house by hand.

The reality, is people want to rent. While it blows my mind, I agree it’s the reality (people increasingly renting).

However, in my opinion, it’s because they don’t have the drive to build wealth and be independent; self-reliant; etc.


I spent 9 years renting, paying 6-7k RMB for an apartment that was selling for 8 million RMB. Even though I didn’t build wealth through housing, I was able to save a lot because rents were cheap where I lived and I didn’t buy. This works in markets where rents are cheap and sale prices are high (most of China actually), you have to do the math, “buy at any cost” is not a good answer.


That’s an overly simplistic and very rosy eyed take in my opinion.


They have to find another solution.

But instead of that lasting forever since their situation never becomes so that they can afford to buy a nice home, which is the case for many people, they only have to deal with that for 10 years at which point they get a lot of choices for nice homes at an affordable price.

It’s the same here in Denmark.


Gotta say, I feel bad for Europeans. In the states just about everyone can afford what you’d probably consider a “nice home” at an “affordable price”.

To put it into perspective; at 20 my friend bought a house in the suburbs — 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 0.3 acres; decent neighborhood, driveway for his 2 cars; etc. he’s not college educated and cuts trees down for a living.


> at 20 my friend bought a house in the suburbs

Now try doing that in the Bay Area?

It's a bit funny to compare "Europeans" to some place in nowhere midwest and a friend that is almost certainly an outlier.

I'm sure you can find 20 year olds that can do the same somewhere in Europe.


Is that ignoring all the homeless people in the states, the people living in trailers, in their cars and so on while working multiple jobs?


On average Americans make an income of 2-4x their European counterparts (depending on industry). The houses in the US cost less, taxes are less and opportunities are greater.

You can look this all up.

While there are homeless and people in trailers, on average it’s because (a) they’re drug addicts who don’t want to live by their own rules (b) people living cheap, trying to get ahead or (c) Elderly, often inept, people who get trapped.

Trailer parks are particularly bad as they lock you into (effectively) renting. Outside of a few major(poorly run & corridor) cities, eg Chicago, SF, LA, NYC, etc the homeless rates are relatively low.


If that were true, we wouldn’t be having a discussion about affordable housing. Or is this a non-US issue?


The US doesn’t have an affordable housing issue. A few cities do, primarily due to local regulations / restrictions.

It’s largely that people are interested in particular locations. Not everyone can afford homes in that location, it’s fact of life.

That said, there’s zero need to be homeless in the US. In Detroit you can get a home for free if you promise to repair it.


Or simply that a diet not meeting the nutritional needs can be correlated to worse athletic performance. And since meat is dense in nutrition, and since places with less meat available sometimes is low income, I think it’s plausible.


Small Gods by Terry Pratchett.

I've heard about, and tried to get into the Discworld a few times, but it never really happened. I think I tried Guard! Guards! twice. Maybe I was in a different headspace, or maybe it was just not for me. But then I tried Small Gods, and it's the best thing I've read since (the nutrition label on the back of) sliced bread. No, really, it's lovely! I'll be done tomorrow according to my Kobos statistics, and then I just need to figure out what I'm gonna read next. Cannot wait to find out about all the things out there in the Discworld that I don't know about yet.


You've got alot of fun reading lined up.

Almost all of the ones I've read were great.

If you're stuck with which to go with next maybe try Mort or any of the early series involving the witches.


Except the list of hashes is a black box. Today it's child porn, tomorrow it's anti-government or something similar. It's a slippery slope that's only going in one direction.


Agreed, but as of today, we are at the top of the slope. Maybe we skip, maybe we don’t.

As implemented, I agree with Apple


Where there is a slope, riders will come. The only way to prevent people from riding the slope is to never built the slope in the first place.


“Anti-government” is absurdly vague. Not how this system works.


> “Anti-government” is absurdly vague.

That's the point. It's not an open to the public list, it's secret and controlled by few. It can contain whatever they want it to contain.

> Not how this system works.

That's absurdly naive.


The only naiveté is self-inflicted by reading clickbait articles instead of how the system actually works. When people start worrying about Apple scanning for abstract subjects like "anti-government" they're worrying about some hypothetical system, not the one that's been built.


No, we’re worried about the precedent it sets.


Scanning for CSAM on a server was a precedent for scanning on a device. Everything is a precedent for anything.


Your entire iPhone is a black box. If you don't trust Apple, there are so many points in the chain where they could backdoor you. The fact they are out in front of this is a good thing.

Also, I'm willing to sacrifice a tiny bit of privacy to stop child porn collections.


This[1] comment explains it very well. It just cements why I moved back to Linux on my laptop, and will be moving to something running open source software on my phone, and open hardware on all my devices.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28159353


But Apple doesn't report to authorities based only on a hash match.


They hash the files on your device.

The hashes are then sent out to for comparison to the hash table.

Right now they are only comparing to the CSAM table but they can add other later.

Also, how are the hashes sent? Can they be intercepted?


Yes but there is a manual review step. A hash match does not automatically report to authorities.

If the Apple reviewer looks at the images that were flagged and doesn’t see CSAM, they don’t report it.


A human at Apple reviews thumbnails of the flagged images to see if they are actually CSAM. You do not get reported just because of a hash match.


If you think it's not spreading to Android phones, you are naive. Apple set the precedent, now it's gonna come to every mainstream device.

The only option is to abandon ship.


For a split second I lamented the demise of Windows Phone. But they too would just follow. But I do lament the end of Firefox OS.


Now we just need to place a photo on our opponents phones - journalists, politicians, someone whos job you want, you name it - and their phone will call the police itself and bring the proof too, and it's their burden to prove their innocence.


Just send a cat video with 1 frame swapped out via e-mail.


Think of all those leakers or hackers who just happened to always have kiddie porn on their devices. Somehow. This has been the default state of things.


Planting something bad on someone was always possible. That hasn’t changed.


What's changed is that I could've once taken reasonable measures to mitigate that risk. All of that's now in Apple's hands and they've got no reason to protect me.


yes, but now you won't have to bribe or pump up probable cause for a search warrant to find such plant. It makes it 100 times easier.


An attacker who has a way to place multiple illegal images onto someone’s phone and into their iCloud Photo Library without their consent… it’s an interesting idea but how is it possible?


Not very long ago we would have said, "an attacker who has a way to remotely control someone's iPhone without their consent simply by sending a text message... It's an interesting idea but how is it possible?" Then we learned about NSO Pegasus and that it was not only possible, but was already being done to the phones of unsuspecting victims across the world.


There’s the whole NSO Pegasus that answers for how regarding remotely. However social engineering is also possible. Drunk out in town makes an easy target for a skilled social engineer.

All in all - it’s very possible.


> This reminds me of vegan bacon.

> If you dont want to eat meat, why try and replicate the taste, texture and sensation of eating meat?

What is this taste, texture, and sensation of meat in regards to bacon you're talking about? Bacon is the opposite of the actual taste, texture, and sensation of meat. It's cooked, salted, and processed to give it that taste, texture, and sensation.

It's the same with people making fun of plant-based burgers and sausages. Well, guess what, burgers and sausages don't exist in nature, neither as meat nor plant. Well, actually... Cucumbers and a few other plants seem quite like sausages. Anyways. The burger, sausage, and bacon form factor is what makes it attractive. It's why people have liked it for so long, and why people like it still when they switch to a plant-based diet.

I guess it's the same reason why some people are into Airyx OS.


Libraries, especially public ones, are a wonderful thing.


University libraries are my favorite. So many volumes of academic work, just waiting to be read. Pick a section, browse and find something interesting about something new.


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