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Yikes, the "[contraction] just" phrases on that campaign website alone are really over the top. Horrendously inauthentic writing, whether it's AI or not:

"wasn't just a job; it was a profound responsibility"

"This isn't just a statistic; it's a sign that we need to re-evaluate how we support those who serve"

"My experience isn't just about past success; it's about understanding the logistics, technology, and economic realities that shape the job market now and how we can create future opportunities right here."

"This experience didn't just teach me about law and order; it taught me about managing complex operations under pressure, the critical need for clear strategy, and the importance of unwavering integrity when the stakes are high – lessons desperately needed in Congress today."

"This campaign isn't just about me; it's about us."

All from the same page. Pretty nauseating.


can someone even prove that this guy is real and not an AI persona at this point? like, at what point do we have AI agents running for govt with a warm meatsack acting on behalf of them?

Yeah, definitely this. It was just not a compelling platform.

When Virtual Boy first came out, Blockbuster Video allowed you to rent the system with some games. We played it a few times and got sick of it before the brief rental period even ended.


What Facebook post are you referring to? Generally speaking, Facebook's MySQL infra has been heavily sharded for a very long time, and doesn't rely on abnormally-beefy servers. It's basically the complete opposite approach of what OpenAI is describing here.

It can also depend on the medium. Typically, newspapers (e.g. the AP style guide) use spaces around em-dashes, but books / Chicago style guide does not.


> ClickHouse went with PostgreSQL.

What do you mean by this? AFAIK they added MySQL wire protocol compatibility long before they added Postgres. And meanwhile their cloud offering still doesn't support Postgres wire protocol today, but it does support MySQL wire protocol.

> Even search here on HN.

fwiw MySQL has been extremely unpopular on HN for a decade or more, even back when MySQL was a more common choice for startups. So there's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy where MySQL ecosystem folks mostly stopped submitting stories here because they never got enough upvotes to rank high enough to get eyeballs and discussion.

That all said, I do agree with your overall thesis.


Part of the background for this entire dispute is that prior to the OSI's founding, "open source" was a generic phrase which was broadly understood to just mean "the source code is available". See many documented cases in https://dieter.plaetinck.be/posts/open-source-undefined-part...

So it's a bit ironic to argue that terms cannot be redefined, when that's already what happened with "open source" and what got us here in the first place. If OSI had chosen a novel term (e.g. "Sourceware" was one option they considered), they would have been able to trademark it and avoid this entire multi-decade-long argument.


Your first link (Canada/BC) offers guidelines for BC government usage of open source software. In this type of situation, the OSI's list of approved licenses (and OSD in general) is very helpful, since it avoids massive duplicative legal overhead of evaluating software licenses. But in my opinion, that has little bearing on whether or not people should strictly follow this definition in an international public forum.

As far as I can see, your second link (applies to all EU member states) makes no mention of the OSI whatsoever, and uses a definition that is far briefer and less specific than the OSD.

I cannot evaluate the third link (Germany) as I don't speak German and automatic translation may introduce subtle changes.


Which governments? OSI wasn't even granted a trademark for "open source" in the US, the country they are based in.


That makes complete sense though? They don't hold the IP, I don't really see any way they could be granted a trademark on it.

As for the list, see [0].

[0] https://opensource.org/about/authority


They applied for a trademark and were rejected due to the term being too generic/descriptive. It has nothing to do with whether they hold IP.

That list doesn't appear to be "legally binding" in a general sense; to me, the way you worded that implies "there is a law saying OSD is the definition of open source in this country" which is very far from the case.

Instead that list appears to be specific cases/situations e.g. how some US states evaluate bids from vendors, or how specific government organizations release software. And many things on that list are just casual references to the OSI/OSD but not laws at all.


A trademark is literally a form of IP. Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.


I didn't say a trademark isn't a form of IP. I said their application for a trademark was rejected due to "open source" being too generic/descriptive, not due to the reason you directly asserted above ("They don't hold the IP, I don't really see any way they could be granted a trademark on it").

You can read more about this at https://opensource.org/pressreleases/certified-open-source.p... or https://www.techmonitor.ai/technology/open_source_initiative... among many other sources. Or a much longer blog post from a lawyer who is active on HN: https://writing.kemitchell.com/2020/05/11/Open-Source-Proper...

fwiw, a non-OSI attempt to trademark "open source hardware" was also rejected for the exact same reason. https://opensource.com/law/13/5/os-hardware-trademark-reject...


> it’s not a random initiative

Arguably it is, in the sense that they didn't actually invent the term; there are many documented pre-OSI uses (including by high-profile folks like Bill Joy) saying "open source" to just mean "source available". And OSI's attempt to trademark the term was rejected.

> if you don’t welcome outside contributions, it isn’t open source

That isn't even part of the OSI's definition, so what are you basing this on?


> That isn't even part of the OSI's definition, so what are you basing this on?

edited my comment —- that is my personal belief/definition

I did mention there’s disagreement —- I haven’t read up on the history and whatnot myself in a while. will have to do some re-reading :)


Thanks for the kind words Peter!

There's actually a potential solution here, but I haven't personally tested it: transportable tablespaces in either MySQL [1] or MariaDB [2].

The basic idea is it allows you to take pre-existing table data files from the filesystem and use them directly for a table's data. So with a bit of custom automation, you could have a setup where you have pre-exported fixture table data files, which you then make a copy of at the filesystem level, and then import as tablespaces before running each test. So a key step is making that fs copy fast, either by having it be in-memory (tmpfs) or by using a copy-on-write filesystem.

If you have a lot of tables then this might not be much faster than the 0.5-2s performance cited above though. iirc there have been some edge cases and bugs relating to the transportable tablespace feature over the years as well, but I'm not really up to speed on the status of that in recent MySQL or MariaDB.

[1] https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/innodb-table-import....

[2] https://mariadb.com/docs/server/server-usage/storage-engines...


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