Yeah, I have a similar situation; FreeBSD is a great operating system, but the sheer amount of investment in Linux makes all the warts semi-tolerable.
I'm sure some people have a sunk-cost feeling with Linux and will get defensive of this, but ironically this was exactly the argument I had heard 20 years ago - and I was defensive about it myself then.. This has only become more true though.
It's really hard to argue against Linux when even architecturally poor decisions are papered over by sheer force of will and investment; so in a day-to-day context Linux is often the happy path even though the UX of FreeBSD is more consistent over time.
But I have such low faith in the platform that I would readily believe that once they think you're not going to continue adding value, they find unpleasant ways to extract the last bit of value that they reserve only for "ex"-users.
Subtle bugs always find their way in increasing amounts for Windows applications that continue getting software releases; we tend not notice because we all run actually supported versions most of the time, and even when we dont- its only for a year.
I see people on youtube trying to make “modern desktop” experiences on Windows 7 and 8; and it takes some serious doing with all the incompatibility with things like browsers. Dialogues about missing features crashing you to desktop more often than working.
So much so that there are dedicated forks of chrome and firefox to support this purpose.
EDIT: Looking into it, seems the tab memory viewer is only looking at the page and does not take extensions into account; if the extensions inject JS/Style to the page then it counts, and Bitwarden seems to only add a small amount of JS to find password dialogues. It uses memory, but outside of the tab viewer.
You know what, I'm going to defend this, because despite how off-colour and bad faith it comes across there's a definite nugget of truth that we have to sit with.
If your hiring program is built around increasing diversity, and you have an enemy state who would count as diverse by default then you have quite literally opened the door for exploitation.
All the handwringing in the sibling comments are not even trying to contend with this.
Also, it seems to be second generation migrants with greater affinity for extremism and patriotism for their parents country - despite never living there (this is the case in Sweden at least), and those are usually full citizens: this is very difficult to contend with for security services who use citizenship as a proxy for weeding out potential disloyalty).
> Corporate espionage. Stealing secrets from a company and sanctions-busting are of course bad things to do, but the legal consequences are not the same as stealing confidential information from the government.
Sort of.
But if the government is hosting its email with Joe, and Joe hires an intern who installs a backdoor for Russia: that would be treason.
Despite the fact that it's a quaint allegory, it's actually a closer one to the reality of the situation.
But - from the people you actually want to get to contribute - emails come with an expectation of a well thought out text. IMs ... less so.
I've been working across time zones via IM and email since ... ICQ.
I'm probably biased by that but I consider email the place for questions lists and long statuses with request for comments, and for info that I want retained somewhere. While IM is a transient medium where you throw a quickie question or statement or whine every couple hours - and check what everyone else is whining about.
I have now been roped into talking more about a topic I have no interest in and am completely ambivalent to… :/
But clearly, thats cultural.
If you keep your eyes on the linux kernel mailing you’ll see a lot of (on topic) short and informal messages flying in all directions.
If you keep your eyes on the emails from big tech CEOs that sometimes appear in court documents; you’ll see that the way they use email is the same way that I’d use slack or an instant messenger.
Thats likely because its the tool they have available- we have IM tools that connect us to people we need (inside the company)- making email the only place for long form content, which means its only perceived as being for long form content.
But when people have to use something federated more often, it does seem like email is actually used this way.
I'm sure some people have a sunk-cost feeling with Linux and will get defensive of this, but ironically this was exactly the argument I had heard 20 years ago - and I was defensive about it myself then.. This has only become more true though.
It's really hard to argue against Linux when even architecturally poor decisions are papered over by sheer force of will and investment; so in a day-to-day context Linux is often the happy path even though the UX of FreeBSD is more consistent over time.
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