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I feel you.

> I can backlog it as a bug, but it's not going to be easily searchable.

In my experience, I've marked it as a bug, comment with the stack trace and mark as U. Then when it arises again, hopefully someone searches for a part of the stack and comes lucky or more often than not, I (or others) will hear of the crash and relay the bug info. Bug is updated with any new info and live continues until it crashes again... Not perfect by any means. I'd love to hear how others deal with this


I’ve also: Added more logging code for future cases, and or try to reason about how it could have occurred. Try to make it impossible if you can, but sometimes that requires too big of a rearchitecture to be worth it.


> I don't know where to start, consider me triggered ;-)

Ha! You and me both. As an Irish lad in the UK, one of the funniest things I still encounter is republicans (British ones!) who hold him up as a hero. You really have to wonder at times.


I would love to see Britain become a republic some day for their benefit (up to them of course to vote on that), but agree they need a better hero.


I used to be of that mindset (re: become a republic) but tbh I'm more of the line of thinking, if it ain't broke... With the parliamentary style of government, you need a figurehead. So you'd have to tear up a whole host of UK conventions going back centuries and re-jig everything, just so someone else gets the ceremonial role?

Much as some might like a complete re-write, I say expand the unit tests around it if minor bugs arise ( e.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15492607 ) and let the system run unless a major blocker comes up ;)


I don't think replacing the Monarch with a ceremonial president requires a complete rewrite. It's more of a cosmetic refactoring, if you will.


King! King! No point in the thing!


Lots of 17th century writers are held up as republican heroes, but usually not Cromwell himself (Levellers/Diggers, Harrington, etc).


My comment relates more to irl conversations. I'll freely admit to not reading up too much on British republicanism.


> albeit well over 300 years later, and as further proof that the Irish have perhaps the longest memories in the world.

Oh right. At what point do historical figures get a free pass on bringing up their bad doings?

And by bad doings, we're talking deaths in the hundreds of thousands, enforced slavery etc.


Yeah, I am Irish and I think that patriotism is a disease. But even so, historical figures who have reputations for ethnic cleansing and genocide [1] should not be forgotten OR forgiven.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cromwellian_conquest_of_Irelan...


Out of interest, how is Cromwell taught in Irish schools and what do they say about the causes of the war?


Still waiting for my reparations from the Normans.


Fagamid suid mar a ta se


“Irish slavery” is usually a sign someone is a racist asshole who has no idea what they’re talking about.


This is an article about Oliver Cromwell, where the author completely brushes off the atrocities he committed in Ireland.

You are correct that as well as all the murder and disenfranchisement and land confiscation, it was only indentured servitude (in Caribbean plantations, where the servants often died before their term of servitude was complete) and not chattel slavery.

But that's not really enough to accuse people of being racist assholes.


I'm not American and have no interest in that side of stuff. Keep your partisan political terms and debates to yourselves.

Call them forced to migrate, indented servants or whatever makes yourself feel good. I'll stick with the accurate term for such.

Edit: Sorry for being a dick, I made assumptions there.


Racist? Toward whom, Irish? I'm sorry, not from the anglosaxon world, I know britain put Ireland under the boot centuries ago, but is calling all of that's effects a form of enslavement deragotary toward Irish?


There's a frequent claim, especially amongst the American far-right, that chattel slavery of Irish people was a common thing (it wasn't, outside isolated cases, generally of non-white Irish people eg https://medium.com/@Limerick1914/an-irish-slave-in-antigua-7...), and that this somehow shows that slavery isn't a factor in the modern socioeconomic condition of black people in the US (because Irish people in the US had better socioeconomic outcomes).

In reality, indentured servitude of Irish people (and English people) was common in the early colonisation of America. This would be considered _modern_ slavery, colloquially (the term slavery is in a modern context used for all unfree labour), but it wasn't _chattel_ slavery, and was pretty dramatically different from chattel slavery. In addition, most Irish people immigrated to the America in the 19th century as free immigrants.

The Irish slavery myth isn't inherently racist (though it is inherently ahistorical), but it is often used as a racist talking point.

Much more context here: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/04/19/how-myth-iris... ; tldr; it's complicated.

By the way, it's worth noting that claims of widespread Irish chattel slavery are almost exclusively an American thing. Here in Ireland history classes etc give a more accurate impression of it. Cromwell engaged in in forced population displacement and unfree labour in Ireland (and there's certainly a case that he engaged in genocide), but not chattel slavery. Think more Stalin than Caesar.


Thanks. So it's a term that's taken its own life in US, and is not itself offensive, but labels the user as a member of one faction in the current US culture wars.

Even if one was speaking only about Irish history without any link to US.

Sigh.


It's a term that, as far as anyone can see, _originated_ in the US.


Thanks, that clarifies why it's felt to be such an odd thing.


> has no idea what they’re talking about.

Funny -- because you've clearly misread something in the thread or think you're in another thread. This has nothing to do with "Irish Slavery".

You be sure to continue to pontificate who does and doesn't know what they're talking about though.


> “Irish slavery” is usually a sign someone is a racist asshole who has no idea what they’re talking about.

So long for the praised HN guidelines.


Seems pretty pre-mature to start comparing countries. We'll know better in a few months/a year, who handled things competently and who didn't.


> What Will You Do to Save Civilization?

Keep providing for my family and raising my kids to be decent people.


Tbh I'm not gonna buy a giftcard for a place that has a high chance of going under in a few months.

Yes, I know that can help cause it but still. We're staring down the face of a global recession and I'm got a family to look after.


> hundreds of academics already signed on

So I should listen to a bunch of students, astronomers and others over the Chief scientific officer and health scientist in the country? Riighht....


You could also listen to the Harvard epidemiology department: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/15/epidem...

Or the British Society for Immunology: https://www.immunology.org/news/bsi-open-letter-government-s...

Or the two distinct open letters from UK scientists, which are now hitting 1200 signatures total: http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia/UK_scientists_statement_on... https://sites.google.com/view/covidopenletter/home

If you believe nobody credible opposes the UK government, you've been fed a narrative.


> If you believe nobody credible opposes the UK government, you've been fed a narrative.

That's a complete strawman. You gave a letter signed by a massively padded out list of "academics" (probably intended to scare your average layman) and when pointed out that astronomers and students probably don't have much to offer right now


Look, do you think the 4 links I posted (which are in turn a small selection of many more) indicate credible opposition or not?


I bought a lot of canned and long lived foods (ones I'd buy anyways), toilet paper, tissues and medicines. Can't get hand sanitiser in any supermarkets since last Friday.


I wouldn't work for a company involved in the deliberate taking of human life.

There's a lot of big gambling companies near me that have me conflicted. I enjoy a flutter and all, but you hear of some people and how they're addicted to it. I dunno, I just stay clear. There's other jobs out there


Well depends on the country more than company, doesn't it? I have 34 days PTO this year, which is not out of the norm for my peers and broadly in line with previous employers.


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