There are many browsers on the App Store but they all have to use one of two browser engines bundled with iOS.

No you don't get me but all browsers in Iphone even firefox and chrome are webkit forks

and neither of them allow any sort of extensions on top

Orion is the only one I think which still supports firefox or chrome extensions as well. I am sure that it can support PWA or already does, not sure, someone should probably test it out.

Theoretically if you can modify the engine enough to run firefox/chrome extensions on it when firefox/chrome themselves on Iphone can't but somehow Orion can, I don't see a reason why nobody's else doing it but combined with some really really good pwa support as well?

I don't think you get how it works. When you download a browser on iOS it does not have an engine _at all_, not even a "WebKit fork". The browser is just a UI and wrapper for one of the engines bundles in iOS. No modifications can be done to the engine whatsoever, it is part of the OS.

Yeah sorry, I don't really have an Iphone so I was just going on a wild hunch.

I would love to discuss about it and how Orion works then.

My question to you is, how is Orion possible to get firefox/chromium extensions working in webkit then, Because I know that Orion's core itself is built on top of webkit but I am wondering what other additions they did to make it possible to have firefox extensions as an example on the Ios

Can you please walk me through how this is possible? I see no other being able to do such a thing. Like how do they make it work then while the engine bundles in Ios.

I also want to ask if possible is that since I can just go to firefox mozilla addon store and get any extension and use it in Orion. Isn't this sort of really similar to an app store itself with 0 restrictions considering that firefox extensions are very unrestricted usually and similar to PWA (not sure)

This is already possible with Orion so I am wondering why more discoveries are not being done in this space. I would love seeing an open source alternative to Orion as well for Iphone perhaps.

Thank you for telling me that browsers work at an operating system level in Ios but can you please tell me how Orion's then able to do such stuff? And can certain more discoveries be made on that front regarding PWA support , extension support similar to orion etc. as well then?

The Firefox/Chromium extension APIs are just javascript. Orion reimplements them with the features that Webkit/JavascriptCore provides.

Oh alright, thanks for telling.

Is there no way that something can be done for PWA abilities? What's stopping PWA on ios, I don't really follow? I would love it if you can clear up my confusion regarding it.

What actually does “PWA” mean? What APIs or functionality is iOS lacking?

They’ve also paid tons to Igalia to develop features for them in open source projects.

Many corporations are free-riding on the Open Source they use. As most of us are honestly.

But I think people cynically underestimate the value of the contributions corporations do make and fail to understand just how much of the software we enjoy is only possible due to corporate funding.

Igalia may be a good example as most of have are not even familiar with them. But the Linux distro that I use comes from their, the Servo browser is being driven by them, and many other projects benefit from their contributions.

Nothing to contribute other than to say that article was an awesome read and now I wish I had the specific skills needed to work at Igalia. :)

Same feeling here! I never really dug much into the low level graphics side of thing.

Not just that, but the whole concept of an open source consultancy is fascinating. I love that this exists and is a career for some people.

I love it.

You should consider updating your free license to allow some time period of professional use, otherwise it's not possible to evaluate it at work without violating the license.

It's possible if you build from source, even in the commercial environment. As the last item in the pricing page says, the license only applies to the prebuilt binaries.

You get a 30-day trial

I use agentic tooling when programming all the time and I can say for certain that Claude feels _several times better_ than any OpenAI model, despite what the benchmarks show.

Hot take: sonnet3.7 is as good if not better than OpenAIs $200/mon o1-pro model, were it were not for Deep Research I would have cancelled my ChatGPT subscription.

I don’t think you can answer this for all managers of all teams all at once. Most of the time the answer is probably no but sometimes it’s not. Sometimes good managers want to code and they need to in order to stay happy. Sometimes your team is fast moving and small and your manager needs to code to keep up. Sometimes your manager is so busy managing they can’t. It just depends.

Oof where is this guy finding an LLM that is a reliable source of information? Most times when I ask an LLM a question about something or bother to look at the AI results in Google I find a lot of incorrect information and linked sources that do not contain any part of the answer they were cited for.

Interesting idea that Google Search will be the backend for ai chats.

Many AI services and crawlers scan sites more intensively than Google Search. I've seen this myself in Google Analytics.

I think another very common scenario is just eliminating the headcount. Companies cut headcount at a small scale all the time and the first one to go is usually the unhired.

Canvas LMS is built on rails. It is open source, too.