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I'm still running multiple CNC/Industrial equipment with win3.1/98/xp. Only just retired one running Dos 6.2


holy crap, thanks for the memories! I remember bamboozle, and also, I think on Channel 4, the "Tea Time Quiz", where you had to answer a question and be the first to phone in the correct answer, I remember winning on a couple of occasions!


but its fine for you to spread your prejudicial views of his religious beliefs? pot, kettle? And just because someone doesn't agree with your view doesn't instantly make then [x]Phobic, its quite possible to be against something without hating on it, im sure most people who hold views similar are not scared of or hold intense hatred to those in same sex relationships, just like i don't like mushrooms, doesn't mean Im a funghiphobic.


This is not a forum for accusing people of being sinners. Don't you have something braver to do than standing up for bigotry, even after the bigot has been politely and repeatedly asked by a moderator to stop his religious harangue, but was argumentative in response [1], found it "somewhat discomforting" to have his own words quoted back to him, and has declared he won't stop [2], regardless of how discomforted his own words make other people feel?

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13246410

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14187168


yet you argue against bigotry with our own bigotry?

bigotry: intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.

seems you may be a sufferer too.....


You are wrong to tolerate intolerance, and wrong to accuse me of bigotry for standing up against bigotry. It doesn't work that way.

And the fact that you're standing up against my stand against bigotry, without bothering to stand up against the original bigotry itself, means you're tacitly supporting that bigotry yourself, which is unethical.

And you're also violating the rules of this forum by continuing to post off-topic unsubstantive comments and baseless personal attacks. So stop it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Philosopher Karl Popper defined the paradox in 1945 in The Open Society and Its Enemies Vol. 1.

"Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."

He concluded that we are warranted in refusing to tolerate intolerance: "We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant."


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Now you're violating the rules again by making personal attacks, and continuing to post off-topic unsubstantive comments. As you well know, this is not the place for that. Yet you continue to do it. I'll tell you once again: stop it.

The fact that you have to resort to personal attacks instead of facts demonstrates that you have no better arguments to defend your support of bigotry and intolerance.

Why do you get so angry and triggered when I and others (including Sir Karl Popper, who is "generally regarded as one of the greatest philosophers of science of the 20th century" [1]) stand up against intolerance, bigotry, bullying and name calling, that you have to repeatedly violate the rules of Hacker News, and make baseless excuses and failed attempts to justify that very bigotry, without ever denouncing the actual bigotry yourself?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper


fallacious appeal to authority as your only defence? cool story bro.


Get to know your local saw doctor, most of us are happy to give recommendations, tips and the like. We often have good quality secondhand tools for sale.


This is awesome! But, for me, totally unplayable! Being colourblind I just cannot differentiate the different shades of the lighter greens and the yellows. I so wish I could play this as it looks and feels amazing.


Please guys, make it stop. I need to work. I need to sleep. I need to eat!! I have no idea wtf I was doing but this is by far the best! This dam game is worse than heroin....


Silicon Valley doesn't do the productivity porn thing anymore, does it?


Im still running 3.1 on 4 machines at work (slightly related to OP, we sharpen the bandsaws!). The thing is that the company that makes the machines is well known for their extortionate prices, so for us to update is not feasible. We just installed newer machines for everything else so the crappy old 3.1 boxes run only what they must to keep the machines running. I would love to try setting up a newer pc to run these machines, but there is so much propriety hardware and software in there that I keep putting it off for another day!


It's weird to think anything exists anymore running such old software. It feels like it just wouldn't even work now. I know that's absurd, but that's how it feels.

My friend sent me a video today of some guys hacking on Mac OS 9 at a hackathon he went to and it just felt odd to even look at it. It's been a solid decade since I've seen OS 9 alive and breathing, it feels like a friend who died long ago or something. And as far as Windows goes I don't think I ever saw anything before '98.

It's a peculiar feeling.


At my last work I was just finishing rewriting a database to get out of OS9.

Another person I help is in the newspaper business and does his layout with PageMaker on OS9, Iv'e been trying to get him over to InDesign but Adobe left behind a lot of the keyboard shortcuts he relies upon and its been a unsuccessful venture so far... As each year goes by its getting harder to find compatible hardware and currently the internet needs to be done on OSX... Would do it in classic mode on OSX but some of Adobe's rendering routines don't particularly like OS9. Talking with him about it many other papers still use OS9, mainly because like the OP said - "it just works" and I can understand their dilemma, when we have tried transitioning things, stuff doesn't "just work" anymore.


That's really interesting. Are any of the papers you know to use OS 9 national ones?

I have a Blackberry from about 7 years ago that won't even connect to my computer, but it's reliable. The battery lasts me 2 or 3 days, the software is perfectly stable and responsive, and I'm just used to it. I imagine the software it runs is insanely old and out of date, but I have no desire to replace it. It just works. So I understand the sentiment. Although as a developer I try to keep pretty up to date on my computer :P


If you have a Canon digital camera, you are an MS-DOS user.


Specifically MS-DOS and not FreeDOS? I would have thought they would have EOLed licensing a while back.


ROM-DOS to be exact, but it's still an MS-DOS knock-off.


Never heard of it, thanks for the info.


I know a machine running MS_DOS 5.x being used for camera vision on a solder-paste silk screen machine.

The surface mount pick and place machine runs dos 6.x and win for workgroups 3.1x

God only knows what the oven runs.

It is weird, but then again it all works.


To this day my dad still runs a stock control program on MS-DOS 6.22. It does the job and never crashes. For a while he had a lovely orange display with a Hercules video card.

At least for him, 640K turned out to be enough :)


So true, saved so much hunting time by using the satellite maps! Especially the nano's in the middle of cities etc!


What's going on with the blog post? Completely unreadable from my device, every time I zoom in that annoying black bar on the left grows to epic proportions and covers most of the content!


I'm sorry about that. The theme is not optimized for mobile devices. At least now I know I have to push mobile theme for the blog higher on my todo list.


Maybe also tweak the cyan link color to be a bit darker - it is difficult to read on both of my screens


most non-casual users (ie geeks like us) would know how to get what we want (vanilla ICS). I don't see a problem, they are keeping the casual users happy with no major changes, but know that the tech savy will easily manage to just install a pure ICS if thats what they want.


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