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Nothing the bending spoons ceo said isn’t true. They are still operating Vimeo.

I worked at one of the companies that were acquired by Bending Spoons and really the only positive things I can say about them is: They are honest and stick to their word.

It's a shitty business model, run by people who do not, in any way shape or form, care about people at all. But they are honest.

So if you work at a company and BS comes knocking: relax, accept the severance money and start looking for something new. It will be over soon. And you also don't want to stay even if offered because it will be an entirely alien environment where only people of a certain character can work.


There's a large contingent on hacker news that still thinks it's some kind of moral failure to fire people

some people look at business as making money for the sake of making money. However other people look at making money as a means to better society. This goes back over a century to the Quaker run businesses, like Lloyds, Rowntree, Cadburys, etc.

You can imagine if your ultimate aim was to improve society, then acquiring a firm but having to sack a bunch of employees as somewhat of a failure.


Option A: the business goes bankrupt, investors lose money, customers lose the product, all employees get fired.

Option B: the business stays afloat, investors make money, customers keep the product, some employees get fired with a severance.

You think option A is superior?


it's not immoral to fire people.

it's immoral to lie to people.

very few people can do the mental gymnastics required to equate " we look forward to realizing Vimeo’s full potential as we reach new heights together " to "you're all getting fired."

at some point in the now far-distant past CEOs used to make heartfelt speeches and memos to a soon-to-be-downsized staff about how hard decisions had to be made and blah-blah-blah; now it's more about sequestering the decision makers away from the damaged goods while projecting daisies and sunshine for would-be investors.

The game has shifted far from the human factor into a purely financial/investor loop. Good for some people but generally worse for people .

And before I hear it : Yes it was always about money, but business wasn't always about investors . That projection of liability to a remote party is exactly the issue.


I don't know how to say this in a politically correct way, but anyone who can grasp meaning from context in a way that's not so literal as to border on autistic would understand that "we look forward to realizing Vimeo’s full potential as we reach new heights together" in a public acquisition statement like this is the furthest thing from an implicit promise to not do layoffs.

While you may be correct in the sense that, in a public acquisition statement, people should be inferring enormous context and not taking anything said at face value.

It's simultaneously true that this is the farthest thing from effective, honest, and clear communication. Reading between the lines here is required precisely because we all know that any acquisition statements made are, at best heavily coded, if not completely just fluff.

You can recognize that and still get angry that it's par for the course for such things to be not just devoid of useful information, but often actively deceiving.


> Reading between the lines

Tbf, and in support of your broader point, there's no reading between the lines, because genuine intent is indistinguishable from deception with this kind of stuff, because the latter imitates the former. There's only expecting the worst, and being only occasionally wrong.


Yeah I agree, I don't think anyone is a fan of this fluff

You're not wrong, but how screwed up is it that we expect leadership at companies we spend most of our waking time on to bullshit through their teeth at the people that make the damn thing work in the first place?

I'm so tired of the investor driven economy.


This was exactly my sentiment.

Going from "you're fine" to "you're fired", when it was always going to be "you're fired".


Bending Spoon's business model has been -- at least for a decade -- buying companies that didn't operate profitably; stopping or slowing ongoing eng investments; and operating them profitably. Often that involves raising prices, but everyone is adults here.

Nobody lied. Vimeo will continue to operate, and probably will even have targeted ongoing development.


Obviously sometimes a business is unsustainable, and it's unavoidable, but it's pretty sociopathic to not consider that people are harmed by being laid off.

They are literally not harmed. The end of an at-will employment agreement is not a harm.

Licensing their index doesn’t change that.

1. Trump’s order in 2020 had nothing to do with fire, so it doesn’t support your position that this has anything to do with fires.

2. The water management plan has nothing to do with where water flows to fight fires.

3. A legal fight in 2020 is not caused by a bill that was passed in 2025.

> there would be no drought in 2020

That’s not how droughts work. A drought is a lack of rainfall. Moving water can reduce the problems caused by a drought, but it cannot prevent a drought.


They don’t have to be grown in the desert

Almonds aren’t grown in the desert, they’re grown in the Central Valley. And they’re grown there because before it’s incredibly fertile soil.

All their examples rely on having poorly configured origins. At least the PHP and Tomcat ones might be blocked by a WAF, but the Next.js one would rely on the WAF blocking responses that included secrets (which I’m not sure they do).

I think the idea for the NextJS example was that there might be some configuration variables that are not sensitive for internal / staff users, but would be problematic if exposed externally—basically, relying on Cloudflare's WAF as a "zero trust" endpoint solution, like Google IAP.

I'm not sure how realistic this is in practice. Does anyone actually configure Cloudflare WAF this way? (As opposed to, e.g., Cloudflare's dedicated zero-trust networking product, which I think works completely differently?)


Apple doesn’t operate the fab, TSMC does. Apple doesn’t shove anyone out of the way, TSMC makes those decisions. It is weird to blame Apple.

A 1984 Ford Ranger with a bed cap would compare favorably to the C15.

Which is definitely the case for flock and likely for other companies.

“The Emperor Has No Clothes” squarely fits in the definition of sycophants.

Works fine on my iPhone…

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