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In the spirit of Winter Olympics, I vote “Lion on a bobsled” next bench . :)

`/init` is good enough.

Model improvements will take care of the rest.


Or the opposite, that humans are somehow super special and not as simple as a prediction feedback loop with randomizations.

If it’s easy to read and understand but doesn’t work, or is slow to execute, or costs a lot to run, is it good code?

If the function is a black box, but you’re sure the inputs produces a certain output without side effects and is fast, do you NEED “good code” inside?

After about 10yrs of coding, the next 10 of coding is pretty brainless. Better to try and solve people/tech interaction problems than plumbing up yet-another-social/mobile/gaming/crypto thing.


All artificial things that we make are rough inside. Yet the living things are not, they are beautiful on every level. And above the mere survival needs we do have a yearn for the same quality in what we make.

Dunno about the website or corp, but the occupy wall st movement was/is true. Happened right after 2008 stock market crash and people camped out on Wall Street in protest of bailing out the banks.

One can make the argument that trump was elected because of OWS knock-on effects...

> One can make the argument that trump was elected because of OWS knock-on effects...

Absolutely.

And guys like Tim Poole got famous off Occupy, then parlayed that fame into building an audience for themselves.

The libertarians at OWS never went away, they just found new causes.

I was at the HUMONGOUS rally that Obama held in Portland in 2008.

The epicenter of OWS was based a few blocks away, years later, and reflected the optimism of 2008 hardening into frustration over Wall Street excess.


I’m listening—...

Just, like, it was the first populist political movement following the ‘08 crash, and while Obama was supposed to be the liberal technocratic answer to the failure of neoliberalism, he was not able to create policies that restored the social and economic post-war order in the US. After Bernie Sanders lost the 2016 nomination, the populist left, which still retained a hope of a new kind of society, no longer had a political representative, and Trump managed to clinch the nomination by campaigning in states that had been neglected by the Clinton campaign. Biden was another, more radical but still fundamentally liberal technocratic attempt to save the status quo of America politics, but the largest economic gains were for the educated professional class, and many people in the country felt left behind and ignored—-again, now with the backing of popular support, Trump won the 2024 election with a promise to completely reshape the country. And he has at least in part succeeded.

How do you get from occupy to the tea party is the link this hypothesis is missing.

Tea party was the clear predecessor to the maga movement, with its nucleation point being simple racist backlash against obama and trump being personally & directly involved in stoking that racism. In retrospect it obviously laid the groundwork for trump's movement, and I can't see any direct link from occupy to tea party other than perhaps some individuals like tunney.


I think the Tea Party is only tenuously connected to Trump. A lot of his policies involve a lot of government spending and federal overreach, and his policies are often opposed by the Freedom caucus. Historically, anyway, right wing populism tends to follow the collapse of the radical left and becomes a dark mirror of those very same movements, attempting to absorb their energies (Steve Bannon’s Leninism, Trump’s workerism). The tea party was, conversely, the last cry of reaganism and the dream of mixing traditional life with libertarian economics, which was flawed from the start as it was that very same deregulation which led to our contemporary technologically inflected society where all social norms are broken for the sake of profit. So the tea party was not the legitimate bearer of world history.

I don't think we're on the same page here, I don't see that trump's policies are particularly central to the appeal or power of his movement. They aren't even important to trump.

The tea party was a right wing populist movement and maga is an extreme right populist movement that emerges a handful of years later, with astounding overlap in membership, and you don't think they're connected? ok.


I really don’t think they are all the same people. Some of the leaders, yes, but you cannot tell me that members of the general public who supported these leaders suddenly shifted from liberterians to authoritarians within a decade.

Why are you assuming they are all fully engaged ideological libertarians? They switched from a political movement significantly based on racial grievance and revanchist social policies to one almost exclusively based on racial grievance and revanchist social policies. I think there might be something other than libertarianism they care about.

Hmm…there has to be more to it though right? The timeline tracks but it looks like there are events missing in between. How do we go from OWS to things like “Drain the Swamp” within a span of roughly five years?

Its a rough sketch. In the end, the viccisitudes of individual history are unable to capture the broader conditions of the events they take place in.

Either no single name/event mentioned in the timeline you provided was remarkable enough to furnish such a vista on its own, or you’re correct.

Yes

Trump told people "you're OK".

It is what people need to hear


I would make the correction that the protest movement was not left wing. I think he’s trying to take credit for his favorite team. TARP was opposed by 80% of Americans. It passed legislation anyway. I think there’s a good lesson to be learned in how performative and inconsequential the electoral process is.

Carried over to Europe too, I remember the camps and protests in many cities' financial districts.

> If you're fine with software which gets a little bit harder to work on every time you make a change and which might blow up in unexpected ways,

human written code is similarly fine. Save for very few human individuals.


Is clothes today really worse?

We have clothes and materials like gortex now that blocks rain and snow no handmade jacket could ever hope to perform at the same level to be lightweight AND dry.


> We have clothes and materials like gortex now that blocks rain and snow no handmade jacket could ever hope to perform at the same level to be lightweight AND dry.

At the cost of massive environmental, animal and human health.


use both ~ Claude Code as main driver, hook it up to Cursor with /ide in Claude code to review or make other manual adjustments.

Have OpenAI Codex do code reviews, it’s the best one so far at code reviews. Yes, it’s ironic (or not) that the code writer is not the best reviewer.


Totally agree.

The uncomfortable truth is that the skill of _writing_ code is becoming commoditized.

Reading, understanding, designing efficient systems, and planning changes based on that, at least for now, will still be for human experts (and AI already a great assist here).

But churn out yet another webpage/website? People doing this will need to move on from this as their primary job.


>But churn out yet another webpage/website?

People exaggerate how many people work on just simple websites / webpages. Anyone needing a website has been able to get it for very cheap for a long time.


Yep. It has been the case forever. The reason we keep/kept getting new tools is because laymen would exhaust their capabilities in the old tools and started requiring a developer once they need THAT ONE feature.


Article meta comment: show me, don’t tell me.

No show —> not easy enough —> too lazy to look it up, already got python/go/ruby quick cli methods. LLM generated even easier.


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