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> The US has similar arrangements with many countries, and you are not doubly-taxed. You simply pay taxes at the highest rate of the two (US and <other country>).

But do you see how punitive that is to US expats? It means that they never benefit from tax mitigation efforts in their resident country if the US has higher taxes on that. That, tax-wise, they are perpetually worse off than US residents and their local neighbors.

Think about the effect of this on small businesses (which are hardly alone in their troubles). Small businesses owned by US expats are at a perpetual disadvantage relative to local businesses because they can’t operate purely within the local tax environment. If the US introduces some poorly thought out regulation, like the GILTI tax, they are hit completely independently of the local competition through no fault of their own.

Besides, if the resident country decides to mitigate some local issue by lowering taxes, what business is that to the US? It’s criminal that it uses its own citizens to siphon off another country’s wealth.


I certainly see it.

My dispute was only with the term "doubly-taxed", which for countries with a tax treaty is simply false.

Nevertheless, you are correct that as a US citizen, you are destined to pay max (USTax (income), OtherTax (income)). I don't agree with this, but it's not called "double taxation".


The US has an interest in maintaining embassies and consulates independent of its expat population. And we often pay for whatever services we get there, so you aren’t subsidizing us.

Additionally a government should think about practicality and fairness before it implements policy. It is impractical and excessively burdensome to try and tax residents of countries that aren’t the US. Despite your stated beliefs elsewhere, it does not take very much income or bizarre situations to wander into dicey tax situations that are frightening for the expat. A small business (which is taxable in the US if you net more than about $430) can mean difficult filing in the US. I don’t earn all that much, and I’ve spent a lot of this summer working on my US taxes for no purpose other than to have them piled up somewhere, unless some IRS agent decides to make my life much more difficult.


They haven’t enforced it yet (for the banks, for non-compliant Americans, they have). But they’ve signed treaties with many governments to allow this, and they threaten foreign banks with fines related to any US dealings.


The US can’t be bothered to help its citizens living abroad with vaccinations even though it has expiring doses. Other countries have done so, AND without the tax compliance demands.

So let’s drop this extraterritorial benefits stuff. No benefit the US has provided has been worth the worry, anger, and tedium of trying to be tax compliant in a situation where it’s impossible to be truly compliant (thanks to how irreconcilable foreign arrangements often are to US tax law).

https://americanexpatfinance.com/news/item/782-state-dept-re...


We are still culturally American, and we still have family in the US. And if we visit, we pay taxes on everything while we’re there. There are taxes on the flight in, on the fuel we use, on the stuff we buy. And maybe we’d like to move back.

So why conflate being American with federal taxes and bureaucracy?

Maybe America should think about the benefits we expats provide to it while living and representing our culture and values abroad. We usually make a good impression on our country’s behalf, but everyone abroad is shocked to hear about the potential draconian penalties and compliance headaches our government forces on us.


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