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I think the operative word people miss when using AI is AGENT.

REGARDLESS of what level of autonomy in real world operations an AI is given, from responsible himan supervised and reviewed publications to full Autonomous action, the ai AGENT should be serving as AN AGENT. With a PRINCIPLE (principal?).

If an AI is truly agentic, it should be advertising who it is speaking on behalf of, and then that person or entity should be treated as the person responsible.


The agent serves a principal, who in theory should have principles but based on early results that seems unlikely.

I think we're at the stage where we want the AI to be truly agentic, but they're really loose cannons. I'm probably the last person to call for more regulation, but if you aren't closely supervising your AI right now, maybe you ought to be held responsible for what it does after you set it loose.

I agree. With rights come responsibilities. Letting something loose and then claiming it's not your fault is just the sort of thing that prompts those "Something must be done about this!!" regulations, enshrining half-baked ideas (that rarely truly solve the problem anyway) into stone.

> but if you aren't closely supervising your AI right now, maybe you ought to be held responsible for what it does after you set it loose.

You ought to be held responsible for what it does whether you are closely supervising it or not.


I don’t think there is a snowball’s chance in hell that either of these two scenarios will happen:

1. Human principals pay for autonomous AI agents to represent them but the human accepts blame and lawsuits. 2. Companies selling AI products and services accept blame and lawsuits for actions agents perform on behalf of humans.

Likely realities:

1. Any victim will have to deal with the problems. 2. Human principals accept responsibility and don’t pay for the AI service after enough are burned by some ”rogue” agent.


It takes 20mins to fet from base houseing to the gate, lord k ows what traffic is like by the causeways, its an hour of driving before you're anywhere worth being and then its a coin flip if its exciting, so its either the ft. Walton beach strip clubs or onbase recreation.

No wonder eglin is addicted hahaha.

But in all seriousness, there are teams of people on the data crunch side of things that seems like a pedestrian insight


Bravo

Discovered the Hackers ost on a /mu/ thread. So many bangers.


Thanks, what a great resource discogs is. Here's the 1st one for completeness:

https://www.discogs.com/release/29127-Various-Hackers-Origin...

It's frustrating that often tracks from soundtracks like this aren't available on Spotify, such as Phoebus Apollo.


I have this OST and the Mortal Kombat one as well on CD (mentioned together since they both have the same song, "Halcyon + On + On" on them!). When I went to a 2600 meetings in Seattle in 1999, I listened to the Hacker's soundtrack in my car on the way, of course. I gave one of the people I met there a ride and we had a laugh when he saw the case in my car. (I feel like I have a story for every song. Thanks for indulging me.)

Mortal Kombat ost had a ridiculous influence on my childhood music tastes, another absolutely amazing sound track is The Saint, check out the artists involved.

Mortal Kombat OST has a lot of good industrial (genre) in it. Bands like KMFDM, but also The Immortals (Praga Khan / Lords of Acid). Orbital - Halcyon + On + On is a good track (more mellow, and one of the many tracks perfectly mixed into the movie), but it samples Kirsty Hawkshaw from Opus III. Traci Lords - Control is actually by Juno Reactor (with vocals by Traci Lords in that version) who IMO is a rather unique/special artist (and live band), who was later featured in various The Matrix tracks. My point being, all of these artists have done a lot of great work, and the mixing was ace.

Then you have other famous bands of that time: The Orb, The Shamen, The KLF, ...

My fav. Juno Reactor live set (and album) is still hands down 'Juno Reactor – Shango Tour 2001 Tokyo' [1]

[1] https://www.discogs.com/master/782091-Juno-Reactor-Shango-To...


Interesting, I wouldn’t have thought of that one since I remember not being impressed by the movie at the time. On Wikipedia, a quote from a review said “on the whole, it's one of the few soundtracks that works better as an album than as a movie.” That tracks!

Awhh, I love the movie also. Could be a nostalgia thing but it's just fun. Val kilmer is basically always great and it's a nice mix of sort of spy movie tropes while having fun with it.

Yea doscovering Halcyon was on Hackers as well was wild for me. I knew that track from MK.

People sometimes fail to appreciate the value of KNOWING the system inside and out when it comes to diagnosis and troubleshooting.

Observability is great, dont get me wrong, but past 3 to 6 months of work on the same thing...I can almost beet the observability tools in timetoresolve.



Yea, I just assume any easily joinable movement like this is a honeypot of sorts.


Most of these groups are centered around a neighborhood, or a school, or a church. For anything school related, people are very suspicious of outsiders trying to join. Churches and neighborhood groups might be more open, I suspect, but still gotta get somebody who lives there or goes to the church to vouch for you.

But the worst case for an outsider joining is not very bad; they get to see what's going on, but the entire point of the endeavor is to bring everything to light and make everything more visible. And if an outsider joins and starts providing bad information or is a bad actor, typical moderation efforts are pretty easy.


Most people are not professional conspiracists and know how to handle secret meetings, communication etc.

But the more the whole thing shifts towards that, the closer civil war is.

In other words, if you think any easily joinable movement is a honeypot you already seem to think along the lines of resistance movement in a dictatorship. (If it is .. I will not judge, I am not in the US)


That seems like quite a stretch from reality. I just know the glowies enjoy lurking websites where people openly post how to use Tor.


Market cap pls


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I've personally begun taking an incredibly critical eye at the pop culture I allow myself to consume, and have been recently making a movie playlist from films before 1990 or so.

The craft is noticeably different.


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