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remove cores = remove the GPU die


Okay so 'stefan_ is arguing that the board which now has no GPU at all and is completely non-functional then gets sold to unsuspecting consumers? In that case, why would the scammer sell the 4090 board at all? At that level of fraud, the scammer could just as well send a circuit board from an alarm clock, or a brick. How does this behavior reflect back on Brother Zhang's shop at all?

So far, everyone's concepts have felt pretty half-baked. Perhaps someone could point me to some actual reports relating to this topic which go into real detail about allegations around how these repair shops contribute to fraud. I'm not having a lot of luck engaging here, but maybe I'm just a bit dim-witted.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJlFmyr8c14 https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/192z13d/scammers_...

> In that case, why would the scammer sell the 4090 board at all? At that level of fraud, the scammer could just as well send a circuit board from an alarm clock, or a brick.

Plausible deniability. With a real-looking GPU, the seller can always fall back on user error, bad PSU, driver issue, PCIe slot problem etc.

The buyer may even doubt themselves at first and spend time reseating the card, reinstalling drivers, swapping cables, or testing another system. By the time they're confident it's not their fault, the return window or dispute period may already be gone.

None of that works if you send a brick or an alarm clock PCB - the fraud is immediately obvious.


For that kind of scam, all you really need the cooler, which are often parted out for legit reasons (watercooling, replacements, probably some specialized high-density and rackmount plays) and may be available as a spare or "second-shift" offering.

It would probably be easy to produce a PCB that's the right size to fit a 4090 cooler, but just contains 90 cents worth of random SMD parts. And you can produce them in quantity when you want them rather than relying on an erratic supply of stripped "real" PCBs.


Great resources, thank you. Makes sense.


"If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place"

- Eric Schmidt


With powerful people, you can not take them at their words. They should only be judged on their actions.


A surprising number of 'sophisticated' criminals backup their seed phrase to the cloud.


> Start a revolution? You have no weapons.

Always this cope from Americans. A broad revolutionary movement will have sympathisers in the military and police. They can raid the governments armouries. The IRA became infamous for arms raids.


I was interested. Clicked the try button and just another wait list. When will Google learn that the method that worked so well with Gmail doesn't work any more. There are so many shiny toys to play with now, I will have forgotten about this tomorrow.


And if you don't sign up quickly after your turn in the queue comes up, you might miss the service altogether, because Google will have shut it down already.


And if you are from Germany you can't even join the list. First I needed to verify it is really me. Get a confirmation code to my recovery mail. Get a code to my cell phone number. And than all I got is a service restricted message.


It worked for me with a gsuite account from germany


Google will die by its waitlist and region restrictions.


The method absolutely does work, but you need loyal advocates who are praising your product to their friends, or preferrably users who are already knocking on your door.


They have a name for these people: Google Developer Experts (in reality: "Evangelists").

https://developers.google.com/community/experts


Oh god, the GDE program. That title used to mean something, i.e. this person is a real expert in the topic.

Now it's just thrown to anyone who's willing enough to spam linkedin/twitter with Google bullshit and suck-up to the GDE community. Think everyone in the extended Google community got quite annoyed with the sudden rise in number of GDE's for blatantly stupid things.

This pops up especially if you're organising a conference in a Google-adjacent space, as you will get dozens of GDE's applying with talks that are pretty much a Google Codelab for a topic, without any real insights or knowledge shared, just a "lets go through tutorial together to show you this obscure google feature". And while there are a lot of good GDE's, in the last 5-6 years there has been such an influx of shitty ones that the program lost it's meaning and is being actively avoided.


Same with Microsoft MVP


I assume they weren't intending to release it today, and didn't have it ready, but didn't want people thinking that they were just following in Github's footprints.


I already pay $20/month for Gemini, I clicked sign up and had access instantly.


Offtopic but how does Gemini $20 compare to the equivalent ChatGPT?


i use both. I think Gemini produces longer more complicated answers. ChatGPT is more succint, but it could be b/c I've trained ChatGPT how to talk to me.

The context window difference is really nice. I post very large bodies of text into gemini and it handles it well.


I signed up on the waitlist when it was announced, got my invite today.


They had to release something, openai is moving at blazing speed


At the moment the only thing openai is doing at "blazing speed" is burning investors' money.


Sounds like a meme. I just can't take the phrase "blazing speed" seriously anymore. Is this intended humorously? Or is it just me


It's success theater. You need to show progress otherwise you might be perceived falling behind. In times where LoI's are written and partnerships are forged the promise has more value than the fact.


Anymore? For me it always sounded too childish or sarcastic. I would expect to see "Blazingly Fast" on a box of Hot Wheels or Nerf Blaster, not a serious tech product.


True. It would look like the real deal of a box of Hot Wheels too


you arent paying attention? google is getting smoked by teams of 25 at openai


HN doesn't like blockchain. They had the chance to get in very early and now they're salty. I first heard about bitcoin on HN, before Silk Road made headlines.


I got involved with bitcoin in 2010. I co-founded a bitcoin unicorn. It is exactly because of this experience that I’m salty on blockchain.


"HN doesn't like blockchain"

HN not believe blockchain same way Apple,Microsoft,Google etc does



I think that generative AI is a much bigger deal than the internet and maybe even the Industrial Revolution. The internet mainly sped up existing processes and made them accessible to everyone. We’ve had mail order for over a century, transatlantic communication through the telegraph and radio, and the printing press.

If the Industrial Revolution was so impactful because it boosted human productivity, then the ability to spawn hundreds, even thousands, of intelligent 'humans' at will must be an even bigger deal.


I'm not that impressed until one of those "intelligent humans" can make me a sandwich and deliver it to me. Gen AI's productivity boosting capabilities are seriously limited outside office work, and even there it can't be trusted to perform totally autonomously. It's a big deal, but not a revolution.

Now, if combine robotics with Gen AI and some other solutions to form true AGI that can do both tasks in physical world and virtual, then things will get more interesting.


I'll never forget "Bitcoin Jesus" making this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP1YsMlrfF0


Legendary piece of bitcoin history btw I've lost all my bitcoin twitce in my 10 years involved, but its so much fun to fuck the system


It seems to be a uniquely American thing. In my country at least (Australia), anything that benefits the common man isn't labelled as communism. It's probably related to hysteria induced by McCarthyism.


Australia is particularly strange.

The US tries hard to paint democracy as a positive world wide. I would imagine the CCP would paint themselves a good position too.

If you were in a position of power in the CCP, who wouldn’t push for positive propaganda to all nearby territories?

All innocent Australians should realize they are consuming proChinese and proAmerican /foreign/ propaganda.

I would argue the Chinese are focusing more resources in Australia compared to the US. The US is busy with Russia and Europe and likely will be for the next 10-15 years


>I would argue the Chinese are focusing more resources in Australia compared to the US.

What are your sources? All declassified documents that I know of suggest otherwise. For example UK's Intelligence and Security Committee of Parliament report titled "China" almost starts with "China sees almost all of its global activity in the context of its struggle with the US".


> I would argue the Chinese are focusing more resources in Australia compared to the US.

It's in their interest to influence Australian politicians since that's where all the TLAs intercept Chinese communications from.


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